Bishop Eleganti: “The Pope’s silence is a classic non-denial!”
“The attempts to rewrite the traditional doctrine that regards homosexual acts as disordered in themselves,” says the Auxiliary Bishop of the Diocese of Chur, Switzerland, “and therefore forbids them, are conspicuous.”
Left: Bishop Marian Eleganti at World Youth Day celebration in April 2014, Berlin-Schöneberg, St. Matthias.(Liebermary/Wikipedia); right: Pope Francis responds to a question while aboard his flight from Dublin to Rome Aug. 26. (CNS photo/Paul Haring)
Editor’s note: The following Kath.net interview with Auxiliary Bishop Marian Eleganti, O.S.B., about the revelations by Archbishop Viganò, the Pope’s silence, and the alleged homosexual network in the Catholic Church was conducted by Roland Noe and published on the Kath.net site yesterday. Bishop Eleganti is Auxiliary Bishop of the Diocese of Chur, Switzerland.
Chur (kath.net/rn, August 30, 2018). “The attempts to rewrite the traditional doctrine that regards homosexual acts as disordered in themselves, and therefore forbids them, are conspicuous. Pope Francis is surrounded by cardinals and advisors who are headed in this direction.” So says the Auxiliary Bishop of Chur and former Jugendbischof of the (Catholic) Episcopal Conference of Switzerland [i.e. the bishop delegated to oversee programs for the pastoral care of young people] in this interview with kath.net.
Kath.net: The World Meeting of Families in Dublin was completely overshadowed by the topic of sexual abuse, and not just because of the revelations by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, the former Nuncio in Washington, D.C. Well, the Pope himself would like to say nothing about the accusations. What do you say about this?
Bp. Eleganti: The fact that Pope Francis does not want to say a single word about them is a classic non-denial. Lying, of course, is completely out of the question.
Kath.net: In Dublin in an EWTN interview you demanded an unsparing and independent investigation [Aufklärung = in this context “reconnaissance mission”] into the causes of the sexual abuse crisis and the cover-up, also with respect to the question about a “homosexual subculture” in the Church. One Swiss diocese attacked you in an incredible way in this connection. What do you say about this?
Bp. Eleganti: Anyone familiar with the ecclesiastical structures is not surprised by it. Concerning this matter I have several posts on my FaceBook page that respond to it. James Martin, speaking at the World Meeting of Families, called for the Church to equate homosexuality with heterosexuality to the fullest extent and to admit homosexuals to all ecclesiastical ministries and offices without further ado, although Pope Francis advises against accepting candidates with homosexual inclinations into the seminaries. The scandals and their hidden difficulties show that homosexual clerics, their friends and networks exist and are represented in the structures of the Church even at the highest level, among them certainly many clerics with homosexual inclinations who are living chaste and holy lives. But we hear about the others every day through the coverage of the sexual abuse cases.
Kath.net: In another interview with kath.ch [an online news service affiliated with the Episcopal Conference of Switzerland] you said that framing this issue merely as an issue of the abuse of authority or clericalism is another cover-up. Doesn’t Pope Francis, or at least one part of his entourage, advocate this view?
Bp. Eleganti: The issue is certainly complex. But one element of political correctness is what they consider the absolute dogma that sexual abuse and homosexuality must not be correlated; similarly, the possibility of changing a homosexual orientation must not even be considered or investigated. In contrast to this, paradoxically, gender theory claims that one’s sexual orientation can be chosen freely. Judith Butler, one of the most important pioneers of gender theory, is lesbian. To maintain that clericalism is the sole root of sexual abuse, and not to take into consideration sexual and emotional needs as well, and probably vices too, is from my perspective reductive reasoning and a classic case of denying reality, that is: purely ideological and interest-driven.
Pope Francis stirred up this wasp’s nest with an indiscreet but honest statement on the airplane from Dublin to Rome when he remarked that children with homosexual inclinations can be helped psychiatrically until the age of twenty. His spin doctors therefore immediately censored his statements in the written version of the interview and removed the obsolete word “psychiatry” and explained on Twitter that he was talking here about the general psychological counseling [literally: “accompaniment”] of those children. But obviously Francis was thinking about something else.
Kath.net: Should bishops who demonstrably have covered up cases of sexual abuse resign?
Bp. Eleganti: It is difficult to imagine that they will remain in office.
Kath.net: Is there currently a heated debate, not only in the United States, about a homosexual network in the Catholic Church? Do you consider it real, and are there indications that it is active in German-speaking countries (Switzerland, Germany, Austria)?
Bp. Eleganti: The attempts to rewrite the traditional doctrine that regards homosexual acts as disordered in themselves, and therefore forbids them, are conspicuous. Pope Francis is surrounded by cardinals and advisors who are headed in this direction and openly support James Martin, the most prominent champion for a change in the teaching to date about homosexuality. Some of them were appointed by Pope Francis himself, such as Cupich, Tobin, Farrell. The last-mentioned invited James Martin to Dublin. What happens at the head of the Church is multiplied in her body, and of course in our German-speaking countries, too. Indeed, Cardinal Marx and other German bishops have already speculated in public about blessing homosexual unions.
Kath.net: Thank you for the interview.
(Translated by Michael J. Miller.)
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A defining theme of Pope Francis’ papacy has been his urging of humanity to better care for the natural environment, which he has done most prominently in his landmark 2015 encyclical Laudato Si’ and numerous subsequent writings and speeches.
The pope’s emphasis on this topic — especially his foray into climate science via his recent encyclical Laudate Deum — has variously drawn both praise and consternation from Catholics in the United States, about half of whom do not share Pope Francis’ views on climate change, according to surveys.
In Laudate Deum, which was released in October as a continuation to Laudato Si’, Francis wrote that the effects of climate change “are here and increasingly evident,” warning of “immensely grave consequences for everyone” if drastic efforts are not made to reduce emissions. In the face of this, the Holy Father criticized those who “have chosen to deride [the] facts” about climate science, stating bluntly that it is “no longer possible to doubt the human — ‘anthropic’ — origin of climate change.”
The pope in the encyclical laid out his belief that there must be a “necessary transition towards clean energy sources, such as wind and solar energy, and the abandonment of fossil fuels.” This follows a call from Pope Francis in 2021 to the global community calling for the world to “achieve net zero carbon emissions as soon as possible.”
He further lamented what he called “certain dismissive and scarcely reasonable opinions [on climate change] that I encounter, even within the Catholic Church.”
In light of the new encyclical — which extensively cites the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) — Pope Francis was invited to speak at this week’s United Nations Climate Change Conference, known as COP28. Though the 86-year-old pope was forced to cancel his trip due to health issues, the Vatican has indicated that he aims to participate in COP28 this weekend in some fashion. It announced today that Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin will represent the pope at the conference.
While various Catholic groups have welcomed the pope’s latest encyclical, some Catholics have reacted with persistent doubts, questioning whether the pope’s policy prescriptions would actually produce the desired effects.
How do Americans feel about climate change?
According to a major survey conducted by Yale University, 72% of Americans believed in 2021 — the latest available data year — that “global warming is happening,” and 57% believe that global warming is caused by human activity.
More recent polling from the Pew Research Center, conducted in June, similarly suggests that two-thirds of U.S. adults overall say the country should prioritize developing renewable energy sources, such as wind and solar, over the expansion of the production of oil, coal, and natural gas. That same survey found that just 3 in 10 adults (31%) say the U.S. should completely phase out oil, coal, and natural gas. The Yale study found that 77% of U.S. adults support at least the funding of research into renewable energy sources.
Broken down by party affiliation, Pew found that a large majority of Democratic and Democratic-leaning independents — 90% — favor alternative energy sources, while just under half, 42%, of Republicans and Republican-leaning adults think the same. Within the Republican cohort, however, 67% of Republicans under age 30 prioritize the development of alternative energy sources, compared with the 75% of Republicans ages 65 and older who prioritize the expansion of oil, coal, and natural gas.
In terms of the expansion of alternative energy sources, two-thirds of Americans think the federal government should encourage domestic production of wind and solar power, Pew reported. Just 7% say the government should discourage this, while 26% think it should neither encourage nor discourage it.
How do America’s Catholics feel about climate change?
Surveys suggest that Catholics in the United States are slightly more likely than the U.S. population as a whole to be skeptical of climate change, despite the pope’s emphatic words in 2015 and since.
A separate Pew study suggests that 44% of U.S. Catholics say the Earth is warming mostly due to human activity, a view in line with Pope Francis’ stance. About 3 in 10 (29%) said the Earth is warming mostly due to natural patterns, while 13% said they believe there is no solid evidence the planet is getting warmer.
According to the same study, 71% of Hispanic Catholics see climate change as an extremely or very serious problem, compared with 49% of white, non-Hispanic Catholics. (There were not enough Black or Asian Catholics in the 2022 survey to analyze separately, Pew said.)
One 2015 study from Yale did suggest that soon after Laudato Si’ was released, U.S. Catholics were overall more likely to believe in climate change than before. That same study found no change, however, in the number of Americans overall who believe human activity is causing global warming.
Pope Francis’ climate priorities
Beyond his groundbreaking writings, Pope Francis has taken many actions during his pontificate to make his own — admittedly small — country, Vatican City, more sustainable, including the recent announcement of a large order of electric vehicles, construction of its own network of charging stations, a reforestation program, and the continued importation of energy coming exclusively from renewable sources.
Francis has often lamented what he sees as a tepid response from developed countries in implementing measures to curb climate change. In Laudate Deum, he urged that new multinational agreements on climate change — speaking in this case specifically about the COP28 conference — be “drastic, intense, and count on the commitment of all,” stating that “a broad change in the irresponsible lifestyle connected with the Western model would have a significant long-term impact.”
The pope lamented what he sees as the fact that when new projects related to green energy are proposed, the potential for economic growth, employment, and human promotion are thought of first rather than moral considerations such as the effects on the world’s poorest.
“It is often heard also that efforts to mitigate climate change by reducing the use of fossil fuels and developing cleaner energy sources will lead to a reduction in the number of jobs,” the pope noted.
“What is happening is that millions of people are losing their jobs due to different effects of climate change: rising sea levels, droughts, and other phenomena affecting the planet have left many people adrift. Conversely, the transition to renewable forms of energy, properly managed, as well as efforts to adapt to the damage caused by climate change, are capable of generating countless jobs in different sectors.”
‘Leave God’s creation better than we found it’
Dr. Kevin Roberts, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Heritage Foundation think tank, told CNA that he has noticed a theme of frustration and confusion among many Catholics regarding the Holy Father’s emphasis on climate change.
A self-described outdoorsman and former president of Wyoming Catholic College, Roberts spoke highly to CNA of certain aspects of Laudato Si’, particularly the pope’s insights into what he called “human ecology,” which refers to the acceptance of each person’s human body as a vital part of “accepting the entire world as a gift from the Father and our common home.”
Dr. Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation. Courtesy of Heritage Foundation.
“I like to think [Pope Francis] personally wrote that, because I could see him saying that,” Roberts said of the passage, which appears in paragraph 155 of the encyclical. Roberts said he even makes a point to meditate on that “beautiful and moving” passage during a retreat that he does annually.
That portion of Laudato Si’ notwithstanding, Roberts said he strongly believes that it detracts from other important issues, such as direct ministry to the poor, when Pope Francis elevates care for God’s natural creation as “seemingly more important than other issues to us as Catholics.” He also said he disagrees with Pope Francis’ policy prescriptions, such as a complete phasing out of fossil fuels, contained in Laudate Deum.
“We of course want to pray for him. We’re open to the teaching that he is providing. But we also have to remember as Catholics that sometimes popes are wrong. And on this issue, it is a prudential matter. It is not a matter of morality, particularly when he’s getting into the scientific policy recommendations,” Roberts said.
Roberts said the Heritage Foundation’s research and advocacy has focused not on high-level, multinational agreements and conferences to tackle the issues posed by climate change but rather on smaller-scale, more community-based efforts. He said this policy position is, in part, due to the historical deference such multinational conglomerates of nations have given to China, the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases overall.
He said agreements within the U.S. itself, with businesses and all levels of government working together, have produced the best results so far when it comes to improving the environment. He also pointed to examples of constructive action that don’t involve billions of dollars, such as families making the choice to spend more time outdoors or engaging in local activities that contribute to environmental conservation and community life, such as anti-litter campaigns and community gardening. The overarching goal, he said, should be to “leave God’s creation better than we found it.”
Roberts — who said he personally believes humans likely have “very little effect” on the climate — said he was discouraged to read other portions of Laudato Si’, as well as Laudate Deum, that to him read as though they had come “straight out of the U.N.” Despite his criticisms, Roberts urged his fellow Catholics to continue to pray for the Holy Father and to listen to the pope’s moral insights.
“I just think that the proposed solutions are actually more anti-human and worse than the purported effects of climate change,” he added.
‘A far more complex issue’
Greg Sindelar, a Catholic who serves as CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF), a conservative think tank that studies the energy industry, similarly expressed concerns to CNA about the potential impact of certain climate change mitigation policies on human flourishing.
Like Roberts, Sindelar spoke highly of certain aspects of the pope’s message while expressing reservations about some of the U.N.-esque solutions proposed in Laudate Deum.
“I think the pope is right about our duty as Catholics to be stewards and to care for the environment. But I think what we have to understand — what we have to balance this with — is that it cannot come at the expense of depriving people of affordable and reliable energy,” Sindelar said in an interview with CNA.
“There’s ways to be environmentally friendly without sacrificing the access that we all need to reliable and affordable energy.”
Greg Sindelar is CEO of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, a think tank in America’s leading energy-producing state. Courtesy of Texas Public Policy Foundation
Sindelar said TPPF primarily promotes cheap, reliable access to energy as a means of promoting human flourishing. The free-market-focused group is skeptical of top-down governmental intervention, both in the form of regulation and incentives or disincentives in certain areas of the energy sector.
When asked what he thinks his fellow Catholics largely think about the issue, Sindelar said many of the Catholics he hears from express the view that government policies and interventions rarely produce effective solutions and could potentially hinder access to energy for those in need.
“I think it’s a far more complex issue than just saying we need to cut emissions, and we need to transfer away from fossil fuels, and all these other things. What we need to do is figure out and ensure ways that we are providing affordable and reliable electricity to all citizens of the world,” he reiterated.
“When the pope speaks, when the Vatican speaks, it carries a lot of weight with Catholics around the world, [and] not just with Catholics … and I totally agree with him that we need to be thinking about the most marginalized and the poorest amongst us,” Sindelar continued.
“[But] by going down these policy prescription paths that he’s recommending, we’re actually going to reduce their ability to have access to that,” he asserted.
Sindelar, while disagreeing with Pope Francis’ call for an “abandonment of fossil fuels,” said he appreciates the fact that Pope Francis has spoken out about the issue of care for creation and has initiated so much public discussion.
“I think there is room for differing views and opinions on the right ways to do that,” he said.
Effective mitigation efforts
Susan Varlamoff, a retired biologist and parishioner at St. John Neumann Catholic Church in the Atlanta area, is among those Catholics who are committed to Pope Francis’ call to care for creation and to mitigate the effects of climate change. To that end, Varlamoff in 2016 created a peer-reviewed action plan for the Archdiocese of Atlanta to help Catholics put the principles contained in Laudato Si’ into action, mainly through smaller, more personal actions that people can take to reduce their energy usage.
Retired biologist Susan Varlamoff. Photo courtesy of Susan Varlamoff
The Atlanta Archdiocese’s efforts have since garnered recognition and praise, Varlamoff said, with at least 35 archdioceses now involved in an inter-diocesan network formed to exchange sustainability ideas based on the latest version of the plan from Atlanta.
“It’s fascinating to see what everybody is doing, and it’s basically based on their talents and imaginations,” Varlamoff said, noting that a large number of young people have gotten involved with their efforts.
As a scientist, Varlamoff told CNA it is clear to her that Pope Francis knows what he’s talking about when he lays out the dangers posed by inaction in the face of climate change.
“He understands the science, and he’s deeply concerned … he’s got remarkable influence as a moral leader,” she said.
“Part of what our religion asks us to do is to care for one another. We have to care for creation if we’re going to care for one another, because the earth is our natural resource system, our life support, and we cannot care for one another if we don’t have that life support.”
Responding to criticisms about the financial costs associated with certain green initiatives, Varlamoff noted that small-scale sustainable actions can actually save money. She offered the example of parishes in the Atlanta area that have drastically reduced their electric bills by installing solar panels.
“[But,] it’s not just about saving money. It’s also about reducing fossil fuels and greenhouse gas emissions, and protecting the natural resources for future generations,” she said.
Moreover, Varlamoff said, the moral imperative to improve the natural environment for future generations is worth the investment. “When [Catholics] give money, for example, for a social justice issue like Walking with Moms in Need or special needs, the payback is improving lives. We’re improving the environment here,” she emphasized.
It takes guts to speak out, so God bless him for doing also. Why am I put to mind of the Arian Controversy on the 4th Century? Because Martini et al, are Arians if not worse.
All but the most obtuse now realize that there has been a movement within the Church to normalize homosexuality, which is clearly a disorder, and to proclaim homosexual fornication is natural when it is clearly an unnatural depravity. In other words, rather than evangelize the world with the ancient truths of Christianity, there are those within the Church who want to accommodate the world’s rejection of God’s plan for human sexuality.
Vigano only confirmed what orthodox Catholics knew all along must be true: This unholy movement within the Church comes from the very top and is led by homosexual activists, aka “the lavender mafia.”
Vigano’s allegations are either true or they are not. It should be relatively simple for a reasonable, objective investigation to determine which is the case — unless Bergoglio blocks such an investigation, which will speak volumes; it will amount to a confession of guilt. And remember, is is Vigano who is saying the release of documents will verify his claims, not Bergoglio, who instead of immediately proclaiming his innocence and insisting that Church documents will demonstrate his innocence, made the following statement to the press when questioned about Vigano’s allegations:
I will respond to your question, but I would prefer last—first we speak about the trip, and then other topics. … I read the statement this morning, and I must tell you sincerely that, I must say this, to you and all those who are interested. Read the statement carefully and make your own judgment. I will not say a single word about this. I believe the statement speaks for itself. And you have the journalistic capacity to draw your own conclusions. It’s an act of faith. When some time passes and you have drawn your conclusions, I may speak. But, I would like your professional maturity to do the work for you. It will be good for you. That’s good.
John Waters, in an article on the First Things web site, translates Bergoglio’s strange remarks to the press this way:
Read the statement in the knowledge of the relationship you and I share: We are men and women of the world and like-minded on what is important. We know where we stand on matters like homosexuality and homosexual priests. But be careful how you handle this Viganò business – a wrong word could undo all we have achieved. I have faith in you to figure out who this man is. Do your work well and there will be no need for me to risk my position. Once you have defused the situation, I will deal with Viganò for the record. We are all adults here. I know I can count on you. I need your help on this, but we have an understanding that has worked well so far. Trust me.
That seems like a reasonable interpretation.
Waters’ remarks can be read in their entirety here:
V. Let us pray for Bishop Eleganti and all the bishops, especially the courageous ones.
R. May he and they stand and tend your flock in your strength, O Lord, in your sublime name.
On the silence of not saying a word–at his own trial Thomas More said it all: “…the maxim is ‘qui tacet consentire’. The maxim of the law is ‘silence gives consent.’ If, therefore, you wish to construe what my silence ‘betokened,’ you must construe that I consented, not that I denied” (as recounted in A Man for All Seasons).
The Holy Spirit through his “permissive will” allows certain people to be elected to positions of responsibility. The Holy Spirit does not handpick the Pope.
Think of a brief list of faithless Cardinals, Daneels, Mahoney, Kasper, Martini (R.I.P.), O’Brien, Marx, Schoenburg, Dolan, Tobin, Weurl, McCarrick, I could go on. These princes of the Church make up a significant part of the lead shepherds and none of them really hold the teaching of the Church. So these men, in dress up, in big houses preside over dioceses’, process in and out of Holy Mass blessing ( or waving) to (us) the peasants and all the time, they condescend hope we will continue in the belief that they share the faith.
Cat’s out of the bag fellas, you are two-faced patronising sycophants fluttering around this bad pope – in trying to (frantically) keep things together in your bunker mentality. The cat is out of the bag. You lot have held sway for far too many years, with your duplicitous lives.
Please go away now as your credibility ( and that of your pals in the Jesuit’s) is now at zero.
Almighty God have mercy on us all.
Dear Gerald,
The Holy Spirit guards the Church just like He nurtures and protects your soul, but free will remains, and God the Holy Spirit does not thwart the obstinate that reject God’s love, rather He allows them to go their way, to find out that they need Him if they are to live and survive. The baptized soul is still capable of sinning and a Pope is still capable of human error, he is only infallible in matters of faith and morals, and even though an obstinate ideologue can appear to be changing teaching, the reality is that so far only personal thoughts are being falsely reported as changes in teaching.
God bless,
tom
The Lavender Mafia in the Church has come out of the shadows and has grown much stronger and bolder over the last 100 years or so to the point that they are now ready to alter Catholic teaching on the vile sin of homosexuality.
If the Catholic Church ceases to fully teach the gospel of Christ, Our Lord and the Blessed Virgin Mary will no longer be able to hold back the arm of God’s justice.
We are on very thin ice here and we are rapidly running out of time.
Oh pooh,
If Gods arm of justice did not come down after Roe or the holocaust it will never come down.
Is not the vileness of abortion and the churches minimal response worse than this gay thing?
Hmmmm? He’s not coming.
You’ll see him when you transcend.
God bless.
The Holy Spirit through his “permissive will” allows certain people to be elected to positions of responsibility. The Holy Spirit does not handpick the Pope.
Well, Father Klovenbach did not speak out for nothin’. Klovenbach’s report did not mysteriously disappear for nothin’.
Something tells me this pope may well simply self-destruct, somehow, at some point and sooner rather than later.
Just guessin’, nothing more.
The pope has his close support from proponents of fr. Martin, and really it says alot and builds the case for Vigano and the truth…. Fatima prophecy before our eyes?
Interesting. I was one of those who did not want to acknowledge the homosexual tendencies within some in the priesthood as being relevant to the discussion around the tragedy of same sex sexual abuse by priests of young boys. But, this article made me suddenly realize that this is like not acknowledging the heterosexual tendencies within some in the priesthood as being relevant to the discussion around opposite sex sexual abuse by priests of young girls. It isn’t the “inclinations” that are at fault, nor should either be considered immoral in any way at all. The immorality comes from the expression of these inclinations on young, vulnerable people. For me, the concern has always been painting with a broad brush all priests with homosexual or heterosexual tendencies as somehow immoral or at higher risk for abusing the young. As long as we are careful to not judge all by the actions of a few, I support naming the full spectrum of concern.
An honest man…not quite at Romans 1 …but I’ll take it.
It takes guts to speak out, so God bless him for doing also. Why am I put to mind of the Arian Controversy on the 4th Century? Because Martini et al, are Arians if not worse.
Refreshingly and surprisingly unambiguous.
The Vigano allegations ring true.
All but the most obtuse now realize that there has been a movement within the Church to normalize homosexuality, which is clearly a disorder, and to proclaim homosexual fornication is natural when it is clearly an unnatural depravity. In other words, rather than evangelize the world with the ancient truths of Christianity, there are those within the Church who want to accommodate the world’s rejection of God’s plan for human sexuality.
Vigano only confirmed what orthodox Catholics knew all along must be true: This unholy movement within the Church comes from the very top and is led by homosexual activists, aka “the lavender mafia.”
Vigano’s allegations are either true or they are not. It should be relatively simple for a reasonable, objective investigation to determine which is the case — unless Bergoglio blocks such an investigation, which will speak volumes; it will amount to a confession of guilt. And remember, is is Vigano who is saying the release of documents will verify his claims, not Bergoglio, who instead of immediately proclaiming his innocence and insisting that Church documents will demonstrate his innocence, made the following statement to the press when questioned about Vigano’s allegations:
John Waters, in an article on the First Things web site, translates Bergoglio’s strange remarks to the press this way:
That seems like a reasonable interpretation.
Waters’ remarks can be read in their entirety here:
FRANCIS AND THE JOURNALISTS
Thank God we still have Bishops willing to speak the truth.
V. Let us pray for Bishop Eleganti and all the bishops, especially the courageous ones.
R. May he and they stand and tend your flock in your strength, O Lord, in your sublime name.
Thank you Bishop Eleganti!
On the silence of not saying a word–at his own trial Thomas More said it all: “…the maxim is ‘qui tacet consentire’. The maxim of the law is ‘silence gives consent.’ If, therefore, you wish to construe what my silence ‘betokened,’ you must construe that I consented, not that I denied” (as recounted in A Man for All Seasons).
If the Holy Spirit picks the pope how did we end up in this situation?
The Holy Spirit through his “permissive will” allows certain people to be elected to positions of responsibility. The Holy Spirit does not handpick the Pope.
The Holy Ghost gave us the pope we deserved!
Think of a brief list of faithless Cardinals, Daneels, Mahoney, Kasper, Martini (R.I.P.), O’Brien, Marx, Schoenburg, Dolan, Tobin, Weurl, McCarrick, I could go on. These princes of the Church make up a significant part of the lead shepherds and none of them really hold the teaching of the Church. So these men, in dress up, in big houses preside over dioceses’, process in and out of Holy Mass blessing ( or waving) to (us) the peasants and all the time, they condescend hope we will continue in the belief that they share the faith.
Cat’s out of the bag fellas, you are two-faced patronising sycophants fluttering around this bad pope – in trying to (frantically) keep things together in your bunker mentality. The cat is out of the bag. You lot have held sway for far too many years, with your duplicitous lives.
Please go away now as your credibility ( and that of your pals in the Jesuit’s) is now at zero.
Almighty God have mercy on us all.
Dear Gerald,
The Holy Spirit guards the Church just like He nurtures and protects your soul, but free will remains, and God the Holy Spirit does not thwart the obstinate that reject God’s love, rather He allows them to go their way, to find out that they need Him if they are to live and survive. The baptized soul is still capable of sinning and a Pope is still capable of human error, he is only infallible in matters of faith and morals, and even though an obstinate ideologue can appear to be changing teaching, the reality is that so far only personal thoughts are being falsely reported as changes in teaching.
God bless,
tom
The Lavender Mafia in the Church has come out of the shadows and has grown much stronger and bolder over the last 100 years or so to the point that they are now ready to alter Catholic teaching on the vile sin of homosexuality.
If the Catholic Church ceases to fully teach the gospel of Christ, Our Lord and the Blessed Virgin Mary will no longer be able to hold back the arm of God’s justice.
We are on very thin ice here and we are rapidly running out of time.
Oh pooh,
If Gods arm of justice did not come down after Roe or the holocaust it will never come down.
Is not the vileness of abortion and the churches minimal response worse than this gay thing?
Hmmmm? He’s not coming.
You’ll see him when you transcend.
God bless.
The Holy Spirit through his “permissive will” allows certain people to be elected to positions of responsibility. The Holy Spirit does not handpick the Pope.
Well, Father Klovenbach did not speak out for nothin’. Klovenbach’s report did not mysteriously disappear for nothin’.
Something tells me this pope may well simply self-destruct, somehow, at some point and sooner rather than later.
Just guessin’, nothing more.
We have a saying in Italy: Chi tace acconsente, or: to be silent is to agree.
The pope has his close support from proponents of fr. Martin, and really it says alot and builds the case for Vigano and the truth…. Fatima prophecy before our eyes?
It’s not just his words, Francis demeanor is “caught in the cookie jar” watching the video it’s clear he knew of abuse and did nothing about it
Interesting. I was one of those who did not want to acknowledge the homosexual tendencies within some in the priesthood as being relevant to the discussion around the tragedy of same sex sexual abuse by priests of young boys. But, this article made me suddenly realize that this is like not acknowledging the heterosexual tendencies within some in the priesthood as being relevant to the discussion around opposite sex sexual abuse by priests of young girls. It isn’t the “inclinations” that are at fault, nor should either be considered immoral in any way at all. The immorality comes from the expression of these inclinations on young, vulnerable people. For me, the concern has always been painting with a broad brush all priests with homosexual or heterosexual tendencies as somehow immoral or at higher risk for abusing the young. As long as we are careful to not judge all by the actions of a few, I support naming the full spectrum of concern.