This week, a viral video captured NYC-based pastor Brandan Robertson—known as “the TikTok pastor,” at least according to his website—making a peculiar argument: that St. Paul and Jesus “are preaching two different Gospels.”
Robertson’s comments came in response to this question: “What do we know about Jesus and the actual teachings of Christ, and how do we divorce this from the usually hypocritical Paul-centric teachings of a typical church?” Robertson proceeded to explain that “Paul and Jesus often come into contradiction with each other,” and that whereas conservative evangelicalism often chooses what Paul said “to the detriment of what Jesus said,” Christians really ought to err in the other direction, choosing Jesus’ message over Paul’s.
What, according to Robertson, separates Paul’s Gospel from that of Jesus? It is that Paul’s is “primarily theological”: he is sharing the story of Jesus with the wider Greco-Roman world. Christ’s, on the other hand, is “primarily social and ethical”: he is sharing “a new way of living, a new standard of justice: How do we live in a more just and generous world?” St. James and St. Peter, who knew Jesus intimately, mirror their teacher’s emphasis: faith is good works. Paul, who “never met Jesus,” disagrees: faith, not works, is what saves us.
Now, to Robertson’s credit, he does say that both “Gospels” are necessary, and both are important to Christianity. But his analysis makes a decisive and dangerous cut right through the New Testament—and it didn’t take long for a flood of criticisms to roll in. Some sighed, pointing out that this “Paul vs. Jesus” trope is an old and tired one; others raged, treating Robertson’s ideas as a dangerous and even demonic innovation of progressive Christianity.
From a Catholic perspective, it is helpful to take a step back and see the way the conversation itself moves. Robertson may be reacting to a real dysfunction in “Paul-centric” conservative evangelicals, but even as he opposes it, he falls into their same cast of mind. In either direction, the debate is framed as an “either/or.” A dilemma is being posed—a zero-sum game in which, at certain junctures, one side has to cede to the other.
What is the dilemma? It is not between Paul and Jesus themselves. A saint vs. the Son of God is no match at all for any Christian. Rather, it is between the spiritual and ethical emphases of each person as recorded in Scripture. In Robertson’s reading, Paul’s message is a more “heavenward,” vertical one, whereas Jesus’ is more “earthward” and horizontal. The first is focused on God and paradise, the second on man and the world. The former is the Gospel of faith that saves us from the world, the latter the “Gospel we live by” to transform it for the better, here and now. The dilemmas in play—God or man, paradise or the world, faith or works, theology or social justice, the not yet and the already—are familiar ones.
The problem, of course, is that they are all false dilemmas—and we see that in the light of Christ himself. Christ is both God and man; he dwells in both paradise and on earth; he is both the model of trust in the Father and the model of service to his brothers; he is the inspiration of both the highest theological tomes and the grittiest works of mercy; he orients us to both the kingdom to come and the kingdom that has arrived. The principle becomes even clearer where Scripture and Tradition flow together as one source of divine revelation. Christianity is a faith of the both/and—not the either/or.
But is Robertson right, at least on biblical grounds? Do St. Paul and Jesus/James/Peter contradict each other? One way to answer the question is by looking at how the atheist Auguste Comte, the founder of positivism who dreamed of a “religion of humanity,” read the same dilemma.
Henri de Lubac in his Drama of Atheist Humanism paints the picture: Comte agreed with Robertson that there was a clear division between St. Paul and Jesus. But in Comte’s reading, the two messengers effectively swap places: Jesus, despite his emphasis on works, was the vertical messenger—a “religious adventurer,” a “suppositious founder,” even “a charlatan,” whose theological tunnel-vision focused on God above and the ego below. “The incomparable Saint Paul,” on the other hand, despite his emphasis on faith, was the great harbinger of the horizontal—a founder of Western civilization who captured a broadened “conception of Humanity” in his great metaphor: “We are members one of another” (Rom. 12:5).
How can St. Paul and Jesus be seen—depending on the position and angle—as falling on opposite sides? Because neither is on either side at all; both are on both. St. Paul did indeed meet Jesus on the road to Damascus, and it was no longer Paul who lived, but Christ who lived in him (Acts 9; Gal. 2:20). Like his master, the defining move of his preaching was drawing the vertical and the horizontal together—a communion culminating in the cross.
St. Paul and Jesus are not preaching two different messages, but rather the same old rich, full, paradoxical Gospel: Christ himself, who always shows us the Way.
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Dear Matthew Becklo, thank you for this perspicacious debunking of a false dichotomy that has misled so many, to the detriment of their eternal souls.
This ‘pastor’ is also an avowed gay activist who teaches ‘queer theology’.
That explains everything. It is difficult to absorb how such a drive can be allowed to shamelessly derail all reason.
Paul is Jesus of Nazareth in high definition. A response to the interesting enigma question posed by Becklo. They do appear different persons in temperament and in message, the anomaly that flummoxed Evangelical Robertson. If Christ wept gently for the widow of Naim Paul wept profusely for the rebel Corinthians [but then Paul speaks of Christ’s intercessory prayers with loud cries and tears]. Both could be scathing in their reprimands. Paul would go so far as to wish circumcisors accidently castrate themselves. Paul could appear vindictive, cursing that he would hand the troublesome coppersmith Alexander over to the Devil.
Faith pitted against good works is not a complete distinction between the two. Christ continuously challenged the Jews on their misreading of the Law, challenging them, healing on the Sabbath, shucking grain and eating. Both Paul and Christ emphasized that the heart of the Law was charity not observance itself. Christ emphasizing that the Sabbath was made for Man. What Christ taught in simple words and acts, Paul articulated at length for the good of those present and for posterity.
Apparently Paul by emphatic language, gestures, amplifies what Christ reveals more subtly, sometimes in a hidden allegorical manner. It’s fitting that the divinity reveal himself with that degree of reserve and discretion, lest he appear diminished, gesticulating and shouting like a carnival barker. He left that more pronounced revelation to Paul, who alone seems to possess that unmatchable blend of integrity and assertiveness that no one since has matched. But neither have any of us ascended into the 3rd heaven.
Also it would be remiss not to add a tribute to essayist Becklo who notes the sine qua non for interpreting Paul and his relation to Christ with the words, it was no longer Paul who lived, but Christ who lived in him.
A good article about this is
https://doctrine.org/jesus-vs-paul
Yet Another Good article
https://carm.org/other-questions/did-jesus-and-paul-teach-the-same-thing/
https://www.queenofthedivinewill.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Little-Catechism-of-the-Divine-Will-1.pdf –
The above small booklet too can help, in seeing the teachings of St.Paul in light of the Kingdom as the Divine Will reign , to also see the same aspects in the efforts of the Holy Father in trying to lead The Church unto the deeper aspects of same .