About Larry Chapp 71 Articles
Dr. Larry Chapp is a retired professor of theology. He taught for twenty years at DeSales University near Allentown, Pennsylvania. He now owns and manages, with his wife, the Dorothy Day Catholic Worker Farm in Harveys Lake, Pennsylvania. Dr. Chapp received his doctorate from Fordham University in 1994 with a specialization in the theology of Hans Urs von Balthasar. He can be visited online at "Gaudium et Spes 22".

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  1. The US Republic is a failed political entity which has degenerated into a ‘democracy’ which is actually a bankrupt socialist nightmare. Friedrich Hayek stated in “The Road to Serfdom” that the most venal and corrupt types of persons will inevitably rise to power in Socialism. We have ample proof of it again today as his warning was based on his experience with Nazism.
    There is no hope for the survival of the USA unless three critical objects are accomplished:
    1) repeal of the Federal Income Tax which has made slaves of us all; a sad consequence of the Civil War. It should be replaced with a Fair Tax or something similar collected by the States and remitted as per need to the central government for its enumerated powers.
    2) term limits are vitally necessary for Congress and high government offices to eliminate the corruption of life long ‘public servants’ enriching themselves at the public trough. How many Bidens, Pelosis, McConnells, Feinsteins do we need to see the absolute necessity of term limits?
    3) Universal suffrage must be eliminated. Only a net tax paying man and wife should have one vote to cast in concert. Otherwise the socialist government will continue to incentivize its dependent constituencies to undermine the will of those who believe in family and work.
    Satan loves to Mock the Almighty even as he apes him and the true devolution of the USA lies in the fact that we as a people labor under the delusions of a trinity of powers established by the Prince of Lies;
    1) Darwin – removed Godliness from Creation
    2) Marx – removed Godliness from society and governance
    3) Freud – removed Godliness from procreation
    Our Church is generally supine to this malevolence and tacitly supports the party of death as a majority of Catholics have voted for the baby killers in the numerous past presidential ‘elections’.
    I recall a beloved Monsignor declaring from the pulpit as his last words before a certain election “you didn’t build that.”.
    Let us affirm with Fr. Altman that you cannot be a Catholic and vote for the DemoncRats.

    • I, for one, would not bet all of my financial assets on the USA surviving as a constitutional republic for much longer. Some might say I’m being pessimistic; I would call it simply realism.

    • Actually, Hayek wrote that the “worst” types of persons will inevitably rise to power in any bureaucratic setting in which dotting I’s and crossing t’s is highly valued. The political system’s structure does not matter. The reason the U.S. worked well for so long was it had little in the way of bureaucracy.

  2. “At best, says Craycraft, what we can hope for is John Courtney Murray’s affirmation that Catholics can participate in good conscience in the American electoral process—so long as we do not take the foundational principles of our politics as ‘articles of faith’ but instead treat them as mere pragmatic ‘articles of peace.’”

    I couldn’t agree more, but I’m afraid we may have come to the natural end of this project for two reasons:
    1. There is no way (with the two party system that has evolved) to jump from our current trajectory to the parallel track that would bring about the Four Pillars above; and
    2. The “articles of peace” seem to be fraying, if not disintegrating altogether, since the darkness of sin has led the populace (essentially unchurched and uncatechised) to abuse their freedom, choosing depravity. In this regard, Christians are increasingly marginalised as haters, minimising their ability to promote the common good.

    As John Adams presciently noted, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

    • We think alike. Here is my comment that I posed on Dr. Chapp’s web page:
      Years ago I read an essay in Commonweal that purported that America and the United States were really two different countries. The United States was a secular republic of limited power. America was a Christian country which was the source of public morality. It would seem that some of the Founders (John Adams in particular) shared this view. This leads me to rephrase Craycraft a bit:
      “Murray’s suggestion that we take the moral principles as articles of peace is helpful for understanding that we may live (uneasily) on the AMORAL foundations of the United States, but we can never really embrace them with unbridled enthusiasm.”
      I would argue that the majority of American Christians diminished America and embraced the amoral foundations of the United States with unbridled enthusiasm only after World War Two, though this was a minority view for many decades before. Perhaps it was the peace brought into existence by the frying of a couple of cities that sparked this enthusiasm?

  3. Thanks Dr. Chapp for an interesting article.

    Your quote from Craycraft that “Catholics in the United States today are liberal Protestants before anything else” reminded me of definition of American Catholics that I read some time ago – that “American Catholics were protestants that went to Mass.”

    Craycraft notes that there are situations ” where voting is just not the most viable form of political action…” However, I believe that voting is probably the only viable form of political action that over 90% of adults can make.

    The topic of voting reminded me that I reread the bishops” voting guide not long ago. The document says that abortion is the preeminent issue, but then goes on to say that if you believe that another grave moral issue is more important, then you can vote for the pro-abortion candidate. Not helpful advice. I think that it is very easy, for example, for someone with a $100,000 dollar student loan to think that a pro-abortion candidate who says he will cancel that loan to believe that is a grave moral reason to vote for that candidate.
    And what do the bishops say about immigration? They have new terminology – not illegal aliens, or even undocumented immigrants, but “newcomers, authorized and unauthorized.” This is terminology not meant to inform opinion, but rather to shape opinion.
    They then list a variety of social issues where there can reasonably be a wide difference of opinion on how best to address them. I do not see this document as a helpful voting guide.

    On the bright side, I doubt that one weekly Mass going Catholic in a hundred will read the 92-paragraph voting document.

  4. Craycraft’s vision is ultra refined idealism. His prime principles reduced to their essence, dignity, solidarity, abeyance of social structure, the common good are as distant from the core of Christ’s new dispensation as are those of Hobbes. To suggest that we should refrain from voting in this coming election reveals his loss of contact with reality.
    While the emperor’s gods may hold sway our God doesn’t pretend that we should refrain from addressing political as well as moral injustice of the highest order. Yesterday’s Roman empire and a nascent Christianity is distant in structure and jurisdiction from today’s catholic citizenry, citizenry with the moral and juridical capacity to stand and witness for justice.

    • About voting, in 1868 and under different circumstances the papacy actually prohibited Catholics from voting in the new kingdom of a unified Italy (the sticking point was the oath of office). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_Expedit Today, what would refusal to vote actually mean, both as a cultural message, but also in terms of default into more-or-less (?) disastrous practical outcomes?

      But, this reader is perplexed by your other remark:

      “[Chapp’s] prime principles reduced to their essence, dignity, solidarity, abeyance of social structure, the common good are as distant from the core of Christ’s new dispensation as are those of Hobbes.”

      “Distant from the core”? The Catholic Social Teaching is the exercise of moral principles (fortitude, temperance, justice, and prudence), and is organized in greater specification in the Catechism and then in the Compendium of the Catholic Social Teaching (2004): https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html

      Centerpieces are as Chapp lists: first, the integrity of the Human Person, and (therefore) Solidarity, Subsidiarity, and the Common Good (Chapters 3 and 4). If I may humbly propose, the protection against any of these themes and others degenerating into ideologies (a concern we share), “prudence” requires that they be presented integrally and in irreducible pairs:

      Centering above all on the “transcendent dignity of each human person,” we then have: (1) the transcendent human person AND the family, always together, (2) wider Solidarity AND concrete Subsidiarity, always together, (3) Rights AND Responsibilities, always together, (4) informed Conscience AND faithful Citizenship, always together, (5) the option for the Poor AND the dignity of Work, always together, and (6) Solidarity/Subsidiarity AND sustainable care for God’s Creation, always together.

      • Comparison of the anti Catholic Masonic Italian government that had wrested the papal states from the papacy to an integral Catholic population in the United States free to vote, actually obliged to vote in favor of justice [see John Paul as well as Benedict on voting] is a non sequitur. You’re certainly free to abstain from voting in order to profess your cultural messages whatever they may be. Please do not pretend that the rest of us should.
        “The inherent dignity of the human person, the solidarity of all humankind, the subsidiary nature of social structures, the common good”, Craycrafts prime principles reduced by Chapp are general concepts that can apply to secular humanism and Marxist socialism. If you’re perplexed it may be that you’re a priori reading a conclusion into my comment. A core is different from a primary concept. Core is the interior, detailed argument or essence of something.

        • Or, instead of misreading your comment, maybe I actually agree–with the remark that to not vote can be a “default […] into disastrous practical outcomes.” Too compact? To not vote is to fail to offset someone else’s vote.

          The other concern, that the CST can be corrupted apply to “secular humanism and Marxist socialism,” is not an idle speculation. Surely this is the reason why, in his writings on CST (e.g., Centesimus Annus), Pope St. John Paul II repeatedly used the explicit term “transcendent [!!!] dignity of the human person.” (I also used this term deliberately.)

          The threat of our time is that the secular state is built on moral quicksand, unless it grounds itself in BOTH natural law (a much eroded assumption) AND an openness to transcendence and God, as if these still exist in a some terrestrially meaningful way!

          What this foundation looks like today and institutionally, probably short of a confessional state, is the space that CST, if done right, wants to fill. David L. Schindler makes the case for a communio society of love within which, then, a distinct juridical order might then be insulated from materialistic ideology. Grace is not something that is simply added to nature. In retrospect, Vatican II also was oriented toward such a conversion of society, itself, rather than only being a player among emergent nation-states or their elites and power blocks.

          I think we’re on the same page, but more pages are surely required. Not sure, here, that synodal fluidity will get it done!

          • Thank you Peter for the further explanation of your responding comments. And in the interchange I benefit from your knowledge. “David L. Schindler makes the case for a communio society of love within which, then, a distinct juridical order might then be insulated from materialistic ideology. Grace is not something that is simply added to nature” is certainly along the lines of my thoughts. My concern during this watershed moment is what’s the better, perhaps required response.

  5. If we remain silent and refrain from witness to truth and injustice what distinguishes us from liberal protestants?

    • I hear what you are saying Father Peter, but I think many liberal Protestants would say that they do witness to truth & injustice. It’s just that their perspective of truth & justice can differ from ours. And wokeness is a sort of quasi-religious belief system with its own rituals & dogmas. Cancelling isn’t unlike excommunication excepting in that excommunication is meant to be more medicinal than extinguishing.

      • You’re right mrscracker, there’s a religiosity to woke liberal protestants. And assuredly we can include Biden, senator Dick Durbin et Al as the catholic Woke.
        Furthermore they agree that all social institutions are by nature subsidiary as claimed by Craycraft. That monumental error is what the Catholic Left believes, for example that the social institutions family and religion are subsidiary.

  6. We read: “Catholic apologists for the American settlement focus too much on the era of the founding, its principles, and its grounding in a fairly benign reading of Locke, and focus far too little on the actual downstream political and cultural entity that we actually got.”

    David L. Schindler’s earlier book, “The Heart of the World, Center of the Church” (Eerdman’s, 1996), offers a similar critique of Catholic Liberalism (Anglo-American Culture, Economics, the Academy), and a presentation of Communio Ecclesiology (the Academy, Intellectual Life, Time in Eternity, Theology/Gender and the Future of Western Civilization, “Thomism” and the Human Person).

    “In light of these [neo-conservative] texts, we must say that man images the CREATIVITY [italics] of God the Father and Creator only in and through the RECEPTIVITY [italics] of Jesus Christ and his mother Mary. The divine creativity of which human creativity is the image, in other words, is first that of Sonship and not that of Fatherhood. We are ‘sons in the Son’: we represent the creativity of the Father only through the Son (cf. Col. 1:15-16), and indeed through the archetypal creature, Mary–the freedom or love of both of whom consists first in receptive obedience. Thus my first and basic point: human freedom is RECEPTIVE [italics] freedom before it is CREATIVE [italics] freedom–or, better, is a freedom that becomes authentically creative only by being interiorly receptive” (Schindler, p. 118).

    Politics is downstream of culture; and all politics is ultimately theological.

  7. “Craycraft’s Augustinian reading”.

    The Augustinian dualism between the city of God and the earthly city doesn’t equate to the conflict between Church and State. On the contrary, Augustine asserts the necessity of civil order, which simply aims to ensure peaceful coexistence among opposing interests.
    The contemporary relevance of Augustine (according to Reinhold Niebuhr, Étienne Gilson, Sergio Cotta, Joseph Ratzinger) paradoxically coincides with the antiquated nature of the medieval version of his thought, with the definitive decline of that political Augustinianism that provided the theoretical legitimization of papal supremacy over imperial power in the controversy spanning from Gregory VII to Boniface VIII.

    The Augustinian model differs greatly both from Origen’s potentially revolutionary eschatology, which tends to delegitimize the orders and laws of the State as they do not conform to evangelical dictates, and from the political theocracy of Eusebius of Caesarea, which, identifying Christian universalism with Roman universalism, lays the ideological foundations upon which Byzantium will establish its “Christian” empire.
    This dual distinction from Origen and from Eusebius allows us to consider the model expressed in “De civitate Dei” as absolutely non-theocratic, despite Augustine hinting at a possible use in that direction, particularly in his Epistle 93, addressed to Bishop Vincent.
    As Gilson stated, “the problem of the two cities has become that of the two powers, the spiritual one of the popes and the temporal one of the States or princes.”
    As Ratzinger wrote, “Augustine practically took as a basis the situation of the Church of the catacombs when he designed his determination of the relationship between Church and State. The Church does not yet appear at all as an active element in this relationship, the idea of Christianizing the State and the world definitely does not belong to the programmatic points of Saint Augustine.”

    This does not imply indifference towards the world and the “res publica” but rather means that “his doctrine of the two cities aims neither at ecclesiasticizing the State nor at statizing the Church, but, amid the orders of this world, which remain and must remain worldly orders, it aspires to make present the new force of faith in the unity of men in the body of Christ, as a transforming element, whose complete form will be created by God himself, once this history has reached its end.”

    The “return to Augustine” thus coincides with the awareness that ours, like the time of early Christianity, is more than ever the time of “grace,” the time of a Christian community that knows itself to be “without homeland,” a community of strangers that accepts and uses earthly realities but is not at home in them, of a civitas which, outside the image of a besieged fortress, worn out by conflict with power, perceives the condition of beginnings: “Christianity that still thinks directed towards the limitless spaces of the nations and still has hope for the salvation of the world” (von Balthasar).

  8. “Catholics in the United States today are liberal Protestants before anything else.” Ignoring for a moment that Craycraft’s definition of “liberal” isn’t the common definition, I would argue that “liberal” Catholics act and vote like “liberal” (mainline?) Protestants while “faithful”(you know, the ones that actually go to church) Catholics act and vote like faithful evangelical/Protestant Christians. Having said that, since the vast majority (75%) of Catholics are not consistent Mass goers, Craycraft is probably more right than wrong.

  9. It is all very simple. Our political freedom is a gift from God and from those who gave their lives in order to bequeath it to us. We must use it in order to care for and protect Christ in the least of His brethren, and use it in order to hand it on to the next generation as a gift to them, just as it was a gift to us.

    Why should God allow us to continue to have political freedom if we won’t use it to protect the life of the child in the womb, to protect confused children from having their genitals mutilated, to stop child sex trafficking?

    The Early Church didn’t have the political freedom we have. They couldn’t use peaceful elections to correct injustice. We can. We have political freedom. We must use it to end the violent abuse of the least of the brethren of Christ. We will do that or quickly lose it.

    Whatever we fail to do for them we fail to do for Him. We are only a heartbeat away from being judged by Him.

  10. Thanks Larry, much to think about: to vote or not to vote, and if we vote, how to vote. If we vote for “the lesser of two evils” is it moral to vote for evil? And if it IS moral to vote for evil, is there a point where the evil is too much and we can no longer vote for it? If there IS a point beyond which we must go, how do we know when we reach it? And if there IS a point is it the same for everyone?

    The “lesser of two evils” argument begs the question of the possibility of a third party in our country. Would it be possible for a third party to win the election? Is there a large segment of voters who constitute a silent majority who could change the moral laws of our country for the better? And if it were possible would it even be the right thing to do? ( yes we must know the answer to this question even if it seems to no “no brainer “ ) Going further, would it be better to “throw our vote away” if we supported a third party candidate that we thought that didn’t have a ghost of a chance to win just to make a statement.

    Going even further: another option is conscious objection to politics and total non participation . This is the most radical, but truly an option.

    Since the Church seems to allow us a great degree of freedom in political involvement ,we should be careful not to judge those who come to different political conclusions. We must allow charity and remain friends. The last election was very polarizing and divisive and we must avoid it in the future. Charity must always prevail.

  11. Sorry, but this article is written at a level that is beyond most bishops, priests, deacons, and laity! Whether we like it or not, we must be extremely concrete and clear. No votes

    No votes for people who don’t respect that human life begins at the moment of fertilization! No votes for people who support killing pre born babies! No votes for people who think it’s ok to mutilate children’s genitals. No votes for people who do not support marriage as a lifelong and exclusive bond between one man & one woman.

    • I agree, but that’s why I will not be voting. Those who do not actively support one of your “no votes” categories still welcome into their party those who do. It’s not like they don’t, on rare occasion, get up on their high horse and expel party members for what they see will be political gain. They certainly ran off Todd Akin when he made an admittedly stupid comment about “legitimate rape”. (Akin clearly meant forcible rape, which is the most obvious kind of rape and what people immediately assume when they hear the word. That does not save his comment, but he obviously did not mean that any kind of rape is “legitimate” in the sense of being morally permissible.) However, when the Nevada GOP dropped their platforms against abortion and gay marriage, they were condemned, but certainly allowed to remain within the national party.

      Sorry, but I’ve seen way too much of this thing. These two examples come immediately to mind, but they are by no means unique. Both political parties are very literally (no, I do not mean figuratively) willing to make deals with the devil to get power. Put not your hope in princes; put not your faith in political parties, either.

      I say this with a great deal of disappointment. I used to think there was a real difference between them, but I have been betrayed too many times. They are just playing the “good cop / bad cop” game; neither one is on our side.

  12. I have learned to be distrustful of generalizations about Americans.
    I have also learned to be distrustful of generalizations about Catholics.
    Therefore, when an author “lays down the law” by making an extremely broad generalization about American Catholics in his first sentence, he immediately forfeits my trust.

    • So, for example, the deep-seated but often unspoken beliefs about the world, the cultural preferences, etc. of a convert who grew up as a Southern Baptist in the heart of Dixie will surely be different from those of a cradle Catholic who was born in New York in the 3rd generation of Italian immigrants. Midwestern Catholics of Polish ancestry are likely to be quite different from southwestern Catholics whos parents crossed over from Mexico.

      I can accept spherical cow arguments, but “all American Catholics are the same” is a non-starter.

  13. Therefore, “it may be that casting a vote is a violation of the obligations of citizenship, not its necessary corollary.”
    This seems directly opposed to directives given in recent election years by US bishops conference and individual bishops regarding voting by Catholics. If after due diligence on canidates or issues, Catholic voters can and should vote even if their vote is for the lesser of two evils,A Catholic cannot in good conscience choose not to vote simply on grounds that no acceptable candidate is on the ballot, is what I assume the bishops’ position is.

    • It’s always easier to support evil when you can tell yourself it is the lesser evil. We are too good at emphasizing the “lesser” aspect without actually taking stock of the certainty and gravity of the evil itself. We dare not make this a habit, or before we know it our material cooperation has become formal cooperation. For example, look at what has happened to the civil rights movement over the decades.

      This is not a problem only for the Left.

  14. “Catholics” in majority have voted for the greater evil of murdering babies in the womb. A non-vote is a vote for the greater evil.
    Trump was so disappointed in the lack of Catholic support that now he has softened his stance on murder in the womb.
    Our ‘shepherds’ are so weak that 5 Catholic Supreme Court Injustices cannot even protect the life of a fully developed baby in the womb.
    A unified Catholic vote for life would change the whole nature of our national political arguments. Instead we have navel gazers who think we must retire in our self satisfied sanctimony.

  15. Thank you Dr Chapp for this intelligent political presentation. I’m glad for the thoroughly insightful background I’ve gleaned from educated replies, Mrs. Cracker,
    Absolutely pertinent topic. Hoping it’s not too late to awaken “The Sleeping Giant” (aka inattentive Catholics). I enjoyed viewing some of the “Catholics for Trump” recent gala. Invigorating young blood there.
    Our Legion of Mary has discussed the topic of voting and we agree that it’s our Catholic civic duty, however distasteful our voting options might be. “Definitely “lesser of two evils “ is the standard.
    Recall the statesman’s remark, “All politics is local”. That’s where practicality is seen, especially in a volunteer capacity, while concurrently working and/or raising families. Most people enter politics to “make a difference” locally.
    It’s also where incumbents are tested. If re-elected upon their record, hopefully experience and integrity will serve constituents well, and in future higher office. More people will follow to fill the lower position ideally.
    Citizens can form town committees to support grassroot candidates. In many towns those are non-existent and must be in the public eye to advertise issues and pro-life, pro- business candidates. And to disseminate voter guides, esp on-line. Family-friendly potluck events can be held outdoors in pleasant weather for meet-and-greet activities. Networking basically. Still in-person greatest way to convince voters. Invite the higher-up Conservatives to highlight the events esp. using local issues as springboards.

  16. Not one word here about the Jews (not all Jews, but those who are in power) who are on the vanguard of every cultural evil, from abortion to pornography to the plandemic to the Gaza genocide. And the Holocaust is the established religion and official sacred dogma, absolving the Jews from all of their crimes and giving them official perennial victim status. How could the author not mention any of this? Perhaps the author should consider if he is fully Catholic or a syncretism worshipper of the new sacred imperium. Or is just silent for “fear of the Jews”?

    • It’s funny how anti Zionists expect us to believe that Jews living in Israel aren’t Gods chosen people or real Jews, but Eastern European impostors, Khazars, etc.
      But then when they want to validate anti Semitic conspiracy theories all of a sudden today’s Jews are actually Jewish.
      Which is it?

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