Pope calls potential U.S. deportation plans ‘a disgrace’

 

Pope Francis addresses pilgrims gathered for Mass on the solemnity of the Epiphany on Jan. 6, 2025, in St. Peter’s Basilica at the Vatican. / Credit: Daniel Ibañez/CNA

CNA Newsroom, Jan 19, 2025 / 22:26 pm (CNA).

Pope Francis criticized potential plans for mass deportations in the United States under President-elect Donald Trump during a wide-ranging Italian television interview on Sunday.

“If this is true it is a disgrace because it makes the poor unfortunate who have nothing pay the price of imbalance. This is not how things are solved,” the pope said on Italian broadcaster Nove’s “Che tempo che fa” program on Jan. 19, speaking about plans to deport immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally.

The U.S. bishops said in November they would speak out forcefully if President Trump does advance the proposal in a way that undermines human dignity.

There are an estimated 11.7 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., according to July 2023 statistics from the Center for Migration Studies.

Pope announces female president for Vatican City

Francis also announced that Sister Raffaella Petrini will become the first female president of the Vatican City State governorate this March, elevating her from her current position as Secretary General.

“The work of women in the Curia has progressed slowly but effectively. Now, we have many,” Pope Francis said during the televised conversation.

The appointment of Sister Petrini will take effect following the retirement of Cardinal Fernando Vérgez Alzaga from his current position as President of the Governorate.

“Women manage better than we do,” he asserted, reported ACI Stampa, CNA’s Italian language partner agency.

The appointment follows that of Sister Simona Brambilla as Prefect of the Dicastery for Consecrated Life.

Call for peace and Jubilee hope

The Holy Father also addressed ongoing conflicts in Ukraine, Palestine, and Israel during the interview. “War is always a defeat,” the pontiff proclaimed, emphasizing the vital importance of negotiations and peace-building efforts.

Reflecting on the current Jubilee Year, Pope Francis stressed that pilgrimages to Rome’s Holy Door must be undertaken with genuine religious intent: “If you come to Rome and visit the Holy Door as a tourist, without a religious purpose, it serves no purpose.”

The interview marked the pope’s third appearance on the program.


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5 Comments

  1. “Women manage better than we do.”

    How backwardist! What “he” should have said:

    A human who identifies as a woman manages better than those of us who identify as a man.

    This is like Biden fighting for ERA, as if he just got elected in 1973.🙈

  2. As a Catholic, I think Pope Francis is a disgrace. He teaches not with the mind and heart of Christ.

    Additionally, Pope Francis needs to mind his own business and stop interfering with the internal affairs of the United States.

  3. Pope Francis prefaces his remark with “If this is true…”

    Massive deportation is likely a straw man. The enforcement cost over ten years is just short of one TRILLION dollars, and the border czar cautions Congress that his budget is barely a sliver of this amount. So a tiered approach targeting criminals first, and then an unfunded bit of campaign rhetoric.

    Maybe the United States policy will resemble that recently announced for the Vatican city state…THIS, very recently from “The Pillar”:

    “Shortly before Christmas, Cardinal Vérgez, president of the Vatican city state’s pontifical commission, signed into law a very robust set of measures aimed at cracking down on what I suppose you could call ‘undocumented migrants’ coming into Vatican City.
    “Henceforth, unless it’s an even more serious crime, the simple act of entering the city state by deception (or violence) gets you a fine of 10,000-25,000 euros and (not or) 1 to 4 years in jail.
    “Entry is considered to have occurred ‘by deception’ if it occurs through fraudulent evasion of the State’s security and protection systems or by evading border controls,” says the new law. If you use a disguise, the ante gets upped by two-thirds and you could expect to spend six and a half years detained at His Holiness’ pleasure.
    “I would just point out, parenthetically, that the penalty for similarly “deceptive” entry into the U.S. is a fine up to $250 and maybe six months in jail — a point of relatively stark contrast the incoming presidential administration might highlight in its inevitable conversations with the Holy See on the subject of border control.”

  4. Newsflash to the Pope. Americans stopped caring a long time ago what this Pope thought about ANYTHING. Especially internal American political matters. This Pope has gone off track into leftist secular thought far too often and his opinions on things such as this hold no weight for us. He is on the opposite side of the fence compared to the opinions of the few Catholics still sitting in the pews. He has done little to uphold church teachings during his pontificate and if anything has spread misinformation and confusion, especially about sexuality and sin.

    It is a measure of how isolated a life the Pope leads that he appears to know nothing about the REALITY of illegal immigration; the violent crime, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, deaths by fentanyl, and gang activity which has been brought into the US by illegal immigrants. Even the ordinary non-criminal ones have placed extraordinary demands on our social welfare , educational and medical care system, thus depriving our own needy and homeless citizens of help. If he thinks the illegals are all nice guys looking for honest work, he is very much mistaken. They broke our laws, thats on THEM. The Pope has evidently forgotten what Jesus said about rendering to caesar what belongs to caesar ( like obedience to the law.) This sort of thing is why he is so comfortable around people he should discipline, like Biden and Pelosi.

  5. Dear Francis: Don’t take this too personally, but no one here really cares what you think or what you have to say at this point. You have no credibility.

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