Anglican minister Vivian Schwanke De Oliveira in the entrance procession of the Mass for the installation of the archbishop of Chapecó in Brazil. (Credit: Courtesy of Archdiocese of Chapecó/Screenshot)
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, Feb 18, 2025 / 16:15 pm (CNA).
Vivian Schwanke De Oliveira, a minister of the Anglican Episcopal Church of Brazil (IEAB, by its Portuguese acronym), “concelebrated” the Sunday, Feb. 9, Mass for installation of the archbishop of the Archdiocese of Chapecó in St. Anthony Cathedral.
The minister entered the church wearing a white alb and a blue stole, together with the priests and bishops in the entrance procession; she remained in the sanctuary, actively participated in the consecration of the Eucharist and received Communion.
Vivian Schwanke De Oliveira, minister of the Anglican Episcopal Church of Brazil is seen here receiving Communion at the installation Mass of the Archdiocese of Chapecó on Feb. 9, 2025. Credit: Courtesy of the Archdiocese of Chapecó/Screenshot
Canon 908 of the Code of Canon Law states that “Catholic priests are forbidden to concelebrate the Eucharist with priests or ministers of churches or ecclesial communities which are not in full communion with the Catholic Church.”
“Catholic ministers may lawfully administer the sacraments only to Catholic members of Christ’s faithful, who equally may lawfully receive them only from Catholic ministers,” Canon 844 further delineates.
The Mass was celebrated by the archbishop of Chapecó, Odelir José Magri, MCCJ, who spoke of the ecumenical significance of the presence of religious authorities at the celebration. He mentioned the presence of the minister of the IEAB, gesturing to her at the altar, and of the pastor of the Renovar em Cristo (Renew in Christ) Church, who was sitting on the second pew of the church along with the other members of the faithful.
At the celebration, Father François Cristiano Cousseau, chancellor of the archdiocese, read the pope’s decree on the creation of the Archdiocese of Chapecó and the appointment of Magri as archbishop.
Kneeling before the altar, Odelir professed his faith and reaffirmed his belief in the truths of the Word of God and the teachings of the Church. He also took the oath of fidelity, committing to maintain communion with the Catholic Church, preserve the integrity of the faith and promote ecclesiastical discipline.
The Mass was concelebrated by about 80 priests and seven bishops from the state of Santa Catarina: the bishop of Caçador, Cleocir Bonetti; the bishop of Lages, Guilherme Werlang, MSF; the bishop of Joaçaba, Mário Marquez, OFMCap; the auxiliary bishop of the Archdiocese of Florianópolis, Onécimo Alberton; the bishop of Rio do Sul, Adalberto Donadelli Junior; and the archbishop of Joinville, Francisco Carlos Bach.
The Anglican Episcopal Church of Brazil in Western Santa Catarina and Alto Uruguai Gaúcho published a statement congratulating “the Archdiocese of Chapecó for its elevation [to an archdiocese] and you, Dom Odelir, for your appointment as archbishop” and reaffirmed its desire to “walk side by side in the mission of Christ, always seeking unity in faith and in service to others.”
ACI Digital, CNA’s Portuguese-language news partner, contacted the Archdiocese of Chapecó to request an explanation regarding the Anglican minister’s participation in the concelebration of the Mass and the reason for receiving the Eucharist. The press office sent a response signed by Magri. Below is the full text of the response:
“In reference to what happened during the solemn Mass of installation of the Archdiocese of Chapecó and my installation as metropolitan archbishop, we inform you that we have already communicated with the apostolic nunciature in Brazil regarding the circumstances of this isolated incident of inadvertent violation of liturgical norms.”
“We renew our commitment to doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxy, and we will strive to avoid future errors,” the text adds.
“We implore divine blessings on our particular Church as we continue united in the evangelizing mission,” the statement concludes.
Clarifying note from the Archdiocese of Chapecó in Brazil. Credit: Courtesy of Archdiocese of Chapecó
This story was first published by ACI Digital, CNA’s Portuguese-language news partner. It has been translated and adapted by ACI Prensa/CNA.
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Amanda Achtman’s last photo with her grandfather, Joseph Achtman. / Credit: Photo courtesy of Amanda Achtman
CNA Staff, Nov 5, 2023 / 06:00 am (CNA).
When the Canadian government began discussing the legalization of euthanasia for those whose deaths were “reasonably foreseeable,” 32-year-old Amanda Achtman said something in her began to stir. Her grandfather was in his mid-90s at the time and fit the description.
“There were a couple of times, toward the end of his life, that he faced some truly challenging weeks and said he wanted to die,” Achtman recalled. “But thank God no physician could legally concede to a person’s suicidal ideation in such vulnerable moments. To all of our surprise — including his — his condition and his outlook improved considerably before his death at age 96.”
Achtman said she and her grandfather were able to have a memorable final visit that “forged her character and became one of the greatest gifts he ever gave me.”
The experience of walking with her grandfather in his last days led Achtman to work that she believes is a calling. On Aug. 1, she launched a multifaceted cultural project called Dying to Meet You, which seeks to “humanize our conversations and experiences around suffering, death, meaning, and hope.” This mission is accomplished through a mix of interviews, short films, community events, and conversations.
Amanda Achtman speaks during the Evening Program at St. Mary’s Cathedral during “The Church as an Expert in Humanity” event in Calgary Sept. 23, 2023. Credit: Edward Chan/Community Productions
“This cultural project is my primary mission, and I am grateful to be able to dedicate the majority of my energy to it,” Achtman told CNA.
Early years
Achtman was born and raised in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. She grew up in a Jewish-Catholic family with, she said, “a strong attachment to these two traditions that constitute the tenor of my complete personality.”
Her Polish-Jewish grandfather, with whom she had a very close relationship as a young adult, had become an atheist because of the Holocaust and was always challenging her to face up to the big questions of mortality and morality.
“One of the ways I did this was by traveling on the March of Remembrance and Hope Holocaust study trip to Germany and Poland when I was 18,” Achtman said. “My experiences listening to the stories of Holocaust survivors and Righteous Among the Nations have undeniably forged my moral imagination and instilled in me a profound sense of personal responsibility.”
Shortly after her grandfather’s death, Achtman discovered a new English-language master’s program being offered in John Paul II philosophical studies at the Catholic University of Lublin in Poland.
“Immediately, I felt as though God were saying to me, ‘Leave your country and go to the land that I will show you — it’s Poland.’ At the time, the main things I knew about Poland were that the Holocaust had largely been perpetrated there and that Sts. John Paul II, Maximilian Kolbe, and Faustina were from there,” Achtman explained. “I wanted to be steeped in a country of saints, heroes, and martyrs in order to contemplate seriously what my life is actually about and how I could spend it generously in the service of preventing dehumanization and faithfully defending the sanctity of life in my own context.”
On Sept. 23, 2023, Amanda Achtman organized a daylong open-house-style event called “The Church as an Expert in Humanity” in Calgary, Alberta. Participants added ideas for how we, the Church, can prevent euthanasia and encourage hope. Credit: Edward Chan/Community Productions
The rise of euthanasia in Canada
In 2016, the Canadian government legalized euthanasia nationwide. The criterion to be killed in a hospital was informed consent on the part of an adult who was deemed to have a “grievous and irremediable condition.”
“The death request needed to be made in writing before two independent witnesses after a mandatory time of reflection. And, consent could be withdrawn any time before the lethal injection,” Achtman explained.
Then, in 2021, the Canadian government began to remove those safeguards. “The legislative change involved requiring only one witness, allowing the possible waiving of the need for final consent, and the removal, in many cases, of any reflection period,” Achtman told CNA.
“Furthermore, a new ‘track’ was invented for ‘persons whose natural death is not reasonably foreseeable.’ This meant that Canadians with disabilities became at greater risk of premature death through euthanasia. Once death-by-physician became seen as a human right, there was practically no limit as to who should ‘qualify.’ As long as killing is seen as a legitimate means to eliminate suffering, there is no limit to who could be at risk.”
Euthanasia — now called medical assistance in dying (MAiD) in Canada — is set to further expand on March 17, 2024, to those whose sole underlying condition is “mental illness.” Last year, Dr. Louis Roy of the Quebec College of Physicians and Surgeons testified before a special joint committee that his organization thinks euthanasia should be expanded to infants with “severe malformations” and “grave and severe syndromes.”
Renewing the culture
Achtman followed the debates around end-of-life issues in Canada and wanted to figure out a way to restore “a right response to the reality of suffering and death in our lives.”
“The fact is, our mortality is part of what makes life precious, our relationships worth cherishing, and our lives worth giving out of love. That’s why we need to bring cultural renewal to death and dying, restoring our understanding of its meaning to the human condition.”
At the Sept. 23, 2023, open-house event called “The Church as an Expert in Humanity,” there were table displays of ministries in the diocese who are doing the best work on suffering, death, grief, and caregiving. Credit: Edward Chan/Community Productions
On Jan. 1, 2021, Achtman made a new year’s resolution to blog about death every single day for an entire year in a way that was “hope-filled and edifying.”
It ended up being very fruitful to Achtman personally, but she said “it also touched a surprising number of people, inspiring them to take concrete actions in their own lives that I could not have anticipated.”
The experience, Achtman said, made her realize that it’s possible to contribute to cultural renewal through things like coffee shop visits, informal interviews, posting on social media, being a guest on podcasts and webinars, organizing community events, and making videos.
“Basically, there are countless practical and ordinary ways that we can humanize the culture — wherever we are and whatever we do the rest of the time.”
The Dying to Meet You project
When it comes to the mission of Dying to Meet You, Achtman told CNA that “God has put on my heart two key objectives: the prevention of euthanasia and the encouragement of hope” and added that “the aim of this cultural project is to improve our cultural conversation and engagement around suffering, death, meaning, and hope through a mix of interviews, writing, videos, and events.”
Achtman said the project is an experiment in the themes Pope Francis speaks about often — encounter, accompaniment, going to the peripheries, and contributing to a more fraternal spirit.
“There is a strong basis for opposition to euthanasia across almost all religions and cultures, traditionally speaking,” Achtman said. “Partly from my own upbringing in a Jewish-Catholic family, I am passionate about how the cultural richness of such a plurality of traditions in Canada can bolster and enrich our value of all human life.”
To that end, one of the projects Achtman has in the works is a short film on end of life from an Indigenous perspective to be released mid-November.
“It’s not so much that we have a culture of death as we now seem to have death without culture,” said Achtman, who hopes her efforts will help change that.
An inspiring hometown event
This past Sept. 23, Achtman organized a daylong open-house-style event called “The Church as an Expert in Humanity” in her home city of Calgary, which took place at Calgary’s Cathedral, the Cathedral Hall, and the Catholic Pastoral Centre. The morning featured a ministry hall of exhibits with 18 table displays of ministries throughout the diocese doing the best work on suffering, death, grief, and caregiving. In the afternoon, there were three-panel presentations.
The morning of “The Church as an Expert in Humanity” in St. Mary’s Cathedral Hall in Calgary, Alberta, featured a ministry hall of exhibits with table displays of ministries in the diocese doing the best work on suffering, death, grief, and caregiving. Credit: Edward Chan/Community Productions
The first involved Catholics of diverse cultural backgrounds speaking about hospitality and accompaniment in their respective traditions. It included a Filipino diaconal candidate, a Ukrainian laywoman working with refugees, an elderly Indigenous woman who is a community leader, and an Iraqi Catholic priest.
The second was called “Tell Me About the Hour of Death,” where participants heard from two doctors, a priest, and a longtime pastoral care worker.
The third panel focused on papal documents pertaining to death, hope, and eternal life. A Polish Dominican sister who has worked extensively with the elderly spoke about John Paul II’s “Letter to the Elderly.”
Later, an evening program was held in Calgary’s Catholic Cathedral and included seven short testimonies by different speakers that “were narratively framed as echoes of the Seven Last Words of Christ.” Among the speakers were a privately sponsored Middle Eastern Christian refugee, a L’Arche core member who has a disability, and a young father whose daughter only lived for 38 minutes. Afterward, Calgary’s Bishop William McGrattan gave some catechesis on the Anima Christi prayer, with a special emphasis on the line “In your wounds, hide me.”
“The day was extremely uplifting and instilled the local Church with confidence that the Church indeed is an expert in humanity, capable of meeting Christ in all who suffer with a gaze of love and the steadfast insistence, ‘I will not abandon you,’” Achtman told CNA.
Calgary’s Bishop William McGrattan listens to the seven testimonies echoing the seven last words of Christ during the evening program. Credit: Edward Chan/Community Productions
Our lives are not wholly our own
Many believe euthanasia is compassionate care for those who suffer. Shouldn’t we be able to do what we want with our own lives? And can suffering have any meaning for someone who doesn’t believe in God?
Achtman said these questions remind her of something Mother Teresa said: “If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other,” as well as the John Donne quote “Each man’s death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind.”
“Our lives are not wholly our own and how we live and die affects the communities to which we belong,” Achtman said. “That is not a religious argument but an empirical observation about human life. If someone lacks ties and is without family and social support, then that is the crisis to which the adequate response is presence and assistance — not abandonment or hastened death. As one of my heroes, Father Alfred Delp, put it, a suffering person makes an ongoing appeal to your inner nobility, to your sacrificial strength and capacity to love. Don’t miss the opportunity.”
Amanda Achtman pictured with Christine, an 88-year-old woman who got a tattoo that says “Don’t euthanize me,” which is featured in a short four-minute documentary. Credit; Photo courtesy of Amanda Achtman
The mission continues
Achtman also organized a “Mass of a Lifetime,” a special Sunday Mass for residents of a local retirement home, on Oct. 15.
Attendees at the Mass of a Lifetime event, a special Sunday Mass for residents of a local retirement home held on Oct. 15, 2023, in Calgary, Alberta. Credit: Amanda Achtman
“I was inspired by a quotation of Dietrich von Hildebrand, who said: ‘Wherever anything makes Christ known, there nothing can be beautiful enough,’” Achtman said. “Applying that spirit to this Mass, we made it as elaborate as possible to show the seniors that they are worth the effort.”
Achtman also recently produced a four-minute short film about an 88-year-old woman named Christine who got a tattoo that says “Don’t euthanize me.” It can be viewed here:
Throughout 2023-2024, Achtman told CNA, she is basing herself in four different Canadian cities for three months each “in order to empower diverse faith and cultural communities in the task of preventing euthanasia and encouraging hope.” She started in her hometown of Calgary and is off to Vancouver this month.
In addition to her work with the Dying to Meet You project, Achtman does ethics education and cultural engagement with Canadian Physicians for Life and works to promote the personalist tradition with the Hildebrand Project.
Faithful Catholics of the Diocese of León, Nicaragua, participate in the annual procession of the image of Our Lady of Mercy, the patroness of the diocese, Sunday, Aug. 21, 2022. / Photo courtesy of the Diocesan Shrine of Our Lady of Mercy
Denver Newsroom, Apr 28, 2020 / 05:17 pm (CNA).- Archbishop Michael Miller of Vancouver has announced that he is donating to the University of British Columbia’s research toward a COVID-19 vaccine.
“May the search for COVID-19 solutions also be a moment of solidarity, of collaboration, and of growing together as a visible sign to the world of the healing and reconciliation so needed right now,” Archbishop Miller said April 27 as reported by the B.C. Catholic.
Ryan Thomas, a special advisor to the archdiocese, told CNA that Archbishop Miller wanted to express, through his donation, the Catholic Church’s support for science and medicine that contribute to the common good.
“The Church— as Pope Francis has said from the beginning of his pontificate— is called to go out, we’re called to engage, not called to retreat,” Thomas told CNA.
“From a scientific standpoint, that means identifying the research that is worthy of our investment, that meets the high standards that we have to protect life,” he said.
Thomas declined to specify the amount of the donation, but said that it was in the thousands of dollars.
The global effort to develop a COVID-19 vaccine includes at least 50 other research teams, the university says, many of which in the U.S. and Canada have received government funding and are being conducted by large pharmaceutical companies.
Pro-life leaders have warned in recent months that among the many COVID-19 vaccines currently in development worldwide, in some cases researchers are using old cell lines derived from the cells of aborted babies.
It was important to Archbishop Miller, Thomas said, that the Church be seen to be promoting research into a vaccine that Catholics can support in good conscience.
A group of Evangelical Christians and Catholics in Vancouver began to rally around the idea of supporting a vaccine that corresponded to Christian ethical standards, and eventually presented the idea of supporting UBC’s research to Archbishop Miller.
Thomas said Miller made sure to inquire about whether UBC’s vaccine research makes use of aborted fetal cells, which it does not.
Dr. Wilf Jefferies, the project’s lead researcher, told CNA via email that his research team is currently in the process of validating the potency of vaccine candidates in preclinical trials, in order to assess their potential toxicity before trying them in human subjects.
The UBC lab is using immune-boosting components called adjuvants in its vaccine candidate, with the hopes of reducing the dosage of vaccine required for complete protection against the disease. In addition, Jefferies hopes that UBC’s vaccine will continue to provide protection against COVID-19 even if the virus mutates over time.
“I am heartened by the unity and kindness that is being demonstrated during this pandemic,” Jefferies told CNA.
“I think the response by the archdiocese is an affirmative and practical way to address the critical need in our society to develop a vaccine…I am sincerely humbled by the support we have received from the archdiocese and from other groups and individuals.”
So far, Jefferies’ lab has received grants from the government-funded Michael Smith Health Research Foundation and the Sullivan Urology Foundation affiliated with the University of British Columbia, as well as a number of private donations.
There are at least 1,000 clinical trials currently taking place around the world to test potential COVID-19 vaccines.
A group of pro-life leaders in a letter to the Trump administration earlier this month reiterated that development of a COVID-19 vaccine should avoid unethical links to abortion.
“No American should be forced to choose between being vaccinated against this potentially deadly virus and violating his or her conscience,” reads the April 17 letter to Dr. Stephen M. Hahn, commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
“Fortunately, there is no need to use ethically problematic cell lines to produce a COVID vaccine, or any vaccine, as other cell lines or processes that do not involve cells from abortions are available and are regularly being used to produce other vaccines,” it continued.
The letter’s signers include Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City in Kansas, chair of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities; the heads of three other bishops’ conference committees; and leaders of many other Catholic and non-Catholic groups.
The Pontifical Academy for Life has noted that Catholics have an obligation to use ethically-sourced vaccines when available, and have an obligation to speak up and request the development of new cell lines that are not derived from aborted fetuses.
The 2008 Vatican document Dignitatis personae strongly criticized aborted fetal tissue research. However, as regards common vaccines, such as those for chicken pox and measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR), that may be derived from cell lines of aborted babies, the Vatican said they could be used by parents for “grave reasons” such as danger to their children’s health.
In a 2017 document on vaccines, the academy noted a “moral obligation to guarantee the vaccination coverage necessary for the safety of others… especially the safety of more vulnerable subjects such as pregnant women and those affected by immunodeficiency who cannot be vaccinated against these diseases.”
Oh good grief!
Cowards! Cowards!
Woe to those priests who have vowed obedience to Our Lord and yet so publicly and profoundly spit in His face!
Clarification is fine, but a year of penance in ashes and sackcloth would be more fitting for such an offense against the Person of God the Son.
Forgive them Lord despite the fact that they KNEW what they were doing and did it anyway.
“O, Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly. I offer Thee the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of JESUS CHRIST truly present in all the Tabernacles of the world in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges and indifference by which He is most offended. I unite with the merits of His Most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary to pray for the conversion of poor sinners.”
So do we now have another heretic Church to align with Germany? What the Vatican does in response will correct or confirm the birth of the polygonal Church.
Consider it confirmed Fr Peter. This is happening left right and center. One of the last “V2 masses” I attended in France that happened with an Anglican male “priest”.
Bergoglio is hell bent on transforming the formerly HRCC into Anglican Communion II; next time round “She” will be presiding.
These are men without eyes that see. Their eyes are of DIE. Perhaps they assumed she was a man going trans; they were okay with that. They all should have stayed in charge of Catechism StoryHour, reading parables to first graders.
Why was this Anglican “minister” even there, much less be allowed on the altar, AND receive the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ?
Someone screwed up big time, and it also speaks volumes that this person had to have known that she was not allowed to partake of the Eucharist, yet chose to do so anyway. This is blatantly disturbing, and some answers had better be provided soon without excuses. I’m a sinner like everyone else, but as a Catholic, I know when not to receive.
It wasn’t possible that this was a valid Mass. It was a performance of sorts – a really bad one at that. Shame on the clergy participating in that sham.
In Leviticus, Aaron’s sons, Nadab and Abihu, were consumed by the fire of God for an illegitimate sacrifice. Aaron and his sons were the first Levitical priests chosen by God for the Exodus of the Israelites. The archbishop opens himself up to sorrow and distress. Publicly repent.
This was not “inadvertent.” You can be assured that Rome was fully aware that this travesty would occur. This – like the blessing of homosexual “couples” – is just another incremental change instituted by apostate Rome.
Please note that I can’t edit people’s comments anymore. There are too many requests. However, I can delete them and publish corrected versions. Thanks.
My edits have been few and far between and I always try to be considerate about requesting it. You do a very good job in spite of the trouble it gives you -lest it goes unsaid. Also the edits I request are always small things not phrases and paragraphs and total re-do’s thank you.
I had recently made a resolution to make the effort to type out my thing in a document offline and then copy-paste to the combox after double-checking. I did this earlier today and still I made mistakes. Don’t worry it’s not your fault.
If you look carefully, it’s interesting that her eyes are not facing forward, paying attention to what’s going on in the ceremony. She is looking to the right, at the camera. Posturing, anyone? Hardly a coincidence.
The fact that this farce was carried out is deplorable, but even worse is the hypocrisy of the new archbishop and every priest in attendance. There is a time and place to stand up for truth and tradition; all failed in this situation. It is overwhelmingly sad to witness such cowardice by so many. However, the situation now needs to be addressed. Who will stand up and condemn everyone who contributed to this Protestant mass? Pope Francis and all else in the Vatican, the Catholic world awaits your action.
For certain, though, it could NOT be a valid Mass. In the Ordinary Form of the Mass where concelebration is acceptable, the ministers must be duly ordained Catholic priests amd/or bishops. This woman does not possess the proper matter for ordination to the priesthood so the concelebration is invalid. It would be no different from the situation where Sister Mary Sunshine or Mrs. Gladys Know-it-All from the Parish Council was allowed by Fr. James Light-in-his-Shoes, S.J. to concelebrate Mass with him at St. Whatever’s in Chicago.
When I was a lad of eight I used to play “Mass” at home. Even at that tender age I understood that there was a difference between what I was doing and what Msgr. Sharkey did on Sundays at St. Saviour’s.
P.S. The title says the “guest” took Communion. The article says she received Communion.
Maybe the headline writer and article writer should coordinate their terminology?
Words matter.
Expect more of this too take place publicly so that we eventually get used it, like a lot of the changes that have occurred. Anyone wo complains or disagees will be labelled a backward, rigid tradionalist.
When we wonder why the laity does not know the rules of the faith, nor pass it on in an effective manner, or OBEY the rules, we have only to look at the clergy. They go to seminary for years, evidently to no good end. At a minimum they should be aware the church does NOT recognize female clerics. Secondly that church members NOT in Communion with the Catholic church may NOT receive Holy Communion at a Catholic Mass. Are they really this dim-witted? This should be among the first things they are taught when becoming a priest. .
I really believe the Catholic priests who took part in this event should be significantly disciplined. Maybe it would help to make an impression on others.
This woman Anglican minister took Holy Communion knowingly and willingly. My Protestant friends (lay people) know very well (without me telling them) that when they come and visit me, and attend a Catholic Mass with me on Sunday, they do not take Holy Communion. They would come up with their arms crossed on their chests to receive a blessing. Thus there is no excuse that this woman Anglican minister did not know that she should not taken Holy Communion. Doing so is a deep offense to our Lord. Furthermore, it was utterly inappropriate (to put it very mildly) for the Catholic hierarchy there to have invited her to concelebrate an episcopal installation Mass. This is a paradigmatic example of DISORDER and Heterodoxy within the Catholic ecclesiastical hierarchy. There is no room for any excuse on the grounds of ignorance.
What I note in virtually all of the comments on this story is a plenitude of utter rightness and perhaps even righteousness. What is also notable is what at least seems to be a total lack of humility and brotherly/sisterly love. Plenty of outrage for sure, along with anger and judgement. Does the Lady, in the voices of her members, protest too much? (They would probably say, ‘No, not enough. There can never be too much in such a circumstance.’)
Oh good grief!
Cowards! Cowards!
Woe to those priests who have vowed obedience to Our Lord and yet so publicly and profoundly spit in His face!
Clarification is fine, but a year of penance in ashes and sackcloth would be more fitting for such an offense against the Person of God the Son.
Forgive them Lord despite the fact that they KNEW what they were doing and did it anyway.
“O, Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, I adore Thee profoundly. I offer Thee the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of JESUS CHRIST truly present in all the Tabernacles of the world in reparation for the outrages, sacrileges and indifference by which He is most offended. I unite with the merits of His Most Sacred Heart and the Immaculate Heart of Mary to pray for the conversion of poor sinners.”
Amen
We need someone to go in and clean up the Church top to bottom. Maybe Elon could help out.
Inadvertent?
Gimme a break.
So do we now have another heretic Church to align with Germany? What the Vatican does in response will correct or confirm the birth of the polygonal Church.
Consider it confirmed Fr Peter. This is happening left right and center. One of the last “V2 masses” I attended in France that happened with an Anglican male “priest”.
Bergoglio is hell bent on transforming the formerly HRCC into Anglican Communion II; next time round “She” will be presiding.
We are ALL Traditionalists now?
I fear you’re correct Signor Cracked Nut. But we’ve got better weaponry and a much better Captain. Christ.
Ah, so it was an “isolated incident of inadvertent violation of liturgical norms.”
They must not have realized that the Anglican minister was not Catholic.
And a woman.
(Sigh.)
Our Catholic leadership thinks that we’re imbeciles.
These are men without eyes that see. Their eyes are of DIE. Perhaps they assumed she was a man going trans; they were okay with that. They all should have stayed in charge of Catechism StoryHour, reading parables to first graders.
Concelebrated?
Never mind that centuries ago the Anglican ecclesial communion rendered invalid its ordinations, as noted by Pope Leo XIII in 1896:https://www.papalencyclicals.net/leo13/l13curae.htm
Repugnant.
Why was this Anglican “minister” even there, much less be allowed on the altar, AND receive the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ?
Someone screwed up big time, and it also speaks volumes that this person had to have known that she was not allowed to partake of the Eucharist, yet chose to do so anyway. This is blatantly disturbing, and some answers had better be provided soon without excuses. I’m a sinner like everyone else, but as a Catholic, I know when not to receive.
This was NOT a Catholic Mass.
It wasn’t possible that this was a valid Mass. It was a performance of sorts – a really bad one at that. Shame on the clergy participating in that sham.
Yet traditionalists are the problem according to many (most?) in Rome. Riiiiiiiight. 🙄
All are welcome…🙈😜 As for a correction, expect instead the kiss of peace from this pontificate. 💋
In her defense, at least one ministers at the installation had the courage of her convictions.
In Leviticus, Aaron’s sons, Nadab and Abihu, were consumed by the fire of God for an illegitimate sacrifice. Aaron and his sons were the first Levitical priests chosen by God for the Exodus of the Israelites. The archbishop opens himself up to sorrow and distress. Publicly repent.
Kinda like the error at St. Pat’s in NY with the LG funeral?
This was not “inadvertent.” You can be assured that Rome was fully aware that this travesty would occur. This – like the blessing of homosexual “couples” – is just another incremental change instituted by apostate Rome.
Please note that I can’t edit people’s comments anymore. There are too many requests. However, I can delete them and publish corrected versions. Thanks.
Duh, what? This chatbox software may be difficult. I wish you had only once or twice been my editor.
My edits have been few and far between and I always try to be considerate about requesting it. You do a very good job in spite of the trouble it gives you -lest it goes unsaid. Also the edits I request are always small things not phrases and paragraphs and total re-do’s thank you.
I had recently made a resolution to make the effort to type out my thing in a document offline and then copy-paste to the combox after double-checking. I did this earlier today and still I made mistakes. Don’t worry it’s not your fault.
If you look carefully, it’s interesting that her eyes are not facing forward, paying attention to what’s going on in the ceremony. She is looking to the right, at the camera. Posturing, anyone? Hardly a coincidence.
The fact that this farce was carried out is deplorable, but even worse is the hypocrisy of the new archbishop and every priest in attendance. There is a time and place to stand up for truth and tradition; all failed in this situation. It is overwhelmingly sad to witness such cowardice by so many. However, the situation now needs to be addressed. Who will stand up and condemn everyone who contributed to this Protestant mass? Pope Francis and all else in the Vatican, the Catholic world awaits your action.
If this was not a valid mass, then is the installation null and void?
That, too, is a reasonable question.
For certain, though, it could NOT be a valid Mass. In the Ordinary Form of the Mass where concelebration is acceptable, the ministers must be duly ordained Catholic priests amd/or bishops. This woman does not possess the proper matter for ordination to the priesthood so the concelebration is invalid. It would be no different from the situation where Sister Mary Sunshine or Mrs. Gladys Know-it-All from the Parish Council was allowed by Fr. James Light-in-his-Shoes, S.J. to concelebrate Mass with him at St. Whatever’s in Chicago.
When I was a lad of eight I used to play “Mass” at home. Even at that tender age I understood that there was a difference between what I was doing and what Msgr. Sharkey did on Sundays at St. Saviour’s.
So sad, an observant new bishop should be installed.
Undoubtedly she’ll be invited to participate in the next conclave.
P.S. The title says the “guest” took Communion. The article says she received Communion.
Maybe the headline writer and article writer should coordinate their terminology?
Words matter.
Expect more of this too take place publicly so that we eventually get used it, like a lot of the changes that have occurred. Anyone wo complains or disagees will be labelled a backward, rigid tradionalist.
When we wonder why the laity does not know the rules of the faith, nor pass it on in an effective manner, or OBEY the rules, we have only to look at the clergy. They go to seminary for years, evidently to no good end. At a minimum they should be aware the church does NOT recognize female clerics. Secondly that church members NOT in Communion with the Catholic church may NOT receive Holy Communion at a Catholic Mass. Are they really this dim-witted? This should be among the first things they are taught when becoming a priest. .
I really believe the Catholic priests who took part in this event should be significantly disciplined. Maybe it would help to make an impression on others.
This woman Anglican minister took Holy Communion knowingly and willingly. My Protestant friends (lay people) know very well (without me telling them) that when they come and visit me, and attend a Catholic Mass with me on Sunday, they do not take Holy Communion. They would come up with their arms crossed on their chests to receive a blessing. Thus there is no excuse that this woman Anglican minister did not know that she should not taken Holy Communion. Doing so is a deep offense to our Lord. Furthermore, it was utterly inappropriate (to put it very mildly) for the Catholic hierarchy there to have invited her to concelebrate an episcopal installation Mass. This is a paradigmatic example of DISORDER and Heterodoxy within the Catholic ecclesiastical hierarchy. There is no room for any excuse on the grounds of ignorance.
What I note in virtually all of the comments on this story is a plenitude of utter rightness and perhaps even righteousness. What is also notable is what at least seems to be a total lack of humility and brotherly/sisterly love. Plenty of outrage for sure, along with anger and judgement. Does the Lady, in the voices of her members, protest too much? (They would probably say, ‘No, not enough. There can never be too much in such a circumstance.’)
Love is not the appropriate response to sacrilege.