There’s a meme—or a class of them—been making the rounds on the innerwebz a good while now, riffing on a prompt: “You know you’re too [X] when …” etc. Someone needs to do one for last week’s Catholic Internet Kerfuffle over Pope Francis’s remarks to young people in Singapore.
Crikey, what did he say that was so awful?
Well, that is a reasonable question, it turns out.
It is two reasonable questions, as a matter of fact.
“What did he really say?” is one, and that wasn’t immediately clear to anyone who didn’t hear him say what he said and understand it.
“Was it really so awful?” is another, but the two got jumbled together and generated a whole lot of heat, including several accusations of heresy and even apostasy from people who ought to know better.
The crux of the matter, ahem, is the question of whether there is more than one path that actually leads to God. The answer to that is—or may be—a simple “No.” Still, the issue behind the question is the relationship of Christianity to other religions, and that’s … complicated.
Basically, Christianity is true: All salvation is through Christ, alone, and the Church that Christ founded teaches everything necessary for salvation; other religions attain at best a partial and distorted understanding of God and the universe.
What Francis said was: Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio. “All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” Msgr. Christopher Washington of the Secretariat of State’s English Section did an admirable job rendering the off-the-cuff remark in the moment, offering: “Every religion is a way to arrive at God.”
Notate bene: He did not say they all get a fellow where he’s meant to go, not on their own. His use of an extended comparison likening religions to “languages” or “idioms” may have suggested something like the idea that it is a matter of indifference which path one takes or happens to be taking just now. Accounting for that as a misimpression is fairly straightforward, even if Francis will bear all the responsibility and some of the blame for it.
Analogies limp, even the best-drawn of them, and this was not among those.
In any case, Someone in the Secretariat of State thought that remark needed a little massage, though, so the official Vatican translation added a verb and something that is either a participle or a gerundive, depending on how you diagram the sentence: “All religions are seen as paths trying to reach God.”
After a day or so of online invective and—presumably—more than a little back-and-forth within the Comms apparatus, a new translation appeared: “All religions are paths to God.”
By the time the new official version appeared, some folks had already done great feats of pseudo-intellectual gymnastics to explain what the pope had never said, and others had impugned the speaker as obviously guilty of gravely sinful error because why massage what he said if it wasn’t really bad?
To be perfectly frank, the official Vatican communications apparatus did not distinguish itself for competence or even basic honesty in the whole episode and, in fact, made things very much worse. If the comms outfit had acted with alacrity, they could have claimed their original was a hasty translation. Instead, the delay made it impossible to avoid the conclusion they were embarrassed first by their principal’s remark and then by their mismanagement of their very public embarrassment.
That is par for the course, and has been since well before 2013.
I remember refusing to Orwell changes to Vatican Radio news copy when they came down, but in those days it was easier—at least possible—to make such refusals and make them stick, since Vatican Radio was both juridically independent and editorially autonomous. “Semi-official” in the magnificent vaticanese nomenclature.
These days, not so much.
I’ve been doing this for a good long while now, and it is still astounding to me how ready people are to find fault with Pope Francis. It doesn’t help that his chief defenders appear to think like functional Mormons and behave like an Army of Renfields—both comparisons I’ve made before—or that Francis has made making a mess the standing order of his reign and has certainly led by example.
Le parole del Romano Pontefice vanno misurate col contagocce, as the old Roman expression says: “The words of the Roman Pontiff are to be meted out with a medicine dropper.” So much for that.
By the way, Francis arguably put himself in pretty good company when he said what he said in Singapore.
CS Lewis famously had help from his friends, Hugo Dyson and JRR Tolkien, who explained to him on a long walk how Christianity is essentially the “true myth”:
[W]hat Dyson and Tolkien showed me was this: that if I met the idea of sacrifice in a Pagan story I didn’t mind it at all: again, if I met the idea of a god sacrificing himself to himself . . . I liked it very much and was mysteriously moved by it: again, that the idea of the dying and reviving god (Balder, Adonis, Bacchus) similarly moved me provided I met it anywhere except in the Gospels. The reason was that in Pagan stories I was prepared to feel the myth as profound and suggestive of meanings beyond my grasp even though I could not say in cold prose “what it meant’. (CS Lewis, Letter to Arthur Greeves, 1 Oct 1931)
In The Everlasting Man, GK Chesterton got after much the same point. “[Paganism] is an attempt to reach the divine reality through the imagination alone,” Chesterton wrote:
[I]n its own field reason does not restrain it at all. It is vital to the view of all history that reason is something separate from religion even in the most rational of these civilizations. It is only as an afterthought, when such cults are decadent or on the defensive, that a few Neo-Platonists or a few Brahmins are found trying to rationalize them, and even then only by trying to allegorize them. But in reality the rivers of mythology and philosophy run parallel and do not mingle till they meet in the sea of Christendom.
There’s wisdom in that Roman adage I mentioned, but Pope Francis was giving a talk off the cuff and in a foreign language to a diverse crowd of mostly non-Christian adolescents with presumably non-existent theological training.
Cut him some slack.
While folks on every side may agree that “susceptible of an orthodox construction” ought not be the bar for papal pronouncements, Francis’s obiter dicta do not bother me overmuch. Whenever he starts talking, my scribbler’s sense knows there is going to be copy. My hackles go up when I sense he may be getting ready to govern something. Then, all bets are off.
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Mr. Altieri!
I’m surprised that you have set your bar of acceptability so low for Bergoglio.
You know that all religions are not equal and that salvation comes through Jesus Christ alone.
Yet you seem to excuse our chronically imprecise pontiff’s pietistic ramblings to the contrary.
Never mind that there is truth in every major religion. And that St. Paul tells us that those who never hear of Jesus may be saved by following the law written in their hearts.
My point is, this is a pope we’re talking about. And what he said is — at the very least — grossly inadequate.
If his comments on the topic are less clear and less cogent than what an idiot like me would say on the topic, then we have a serious, serious problem.
“All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” (False)
“All religions are seen as paths trying to reach God.” (False)
While it may be true that some persons perceive that all religions are paths to reach God, this sentence would still be false as all Catholics profess and believe there is only One God, The Blessed Trinity, and they are no longer in a “quest for The Living God”, they recognize Christ In “The Breaking Of The Bread”, as they Receive Christ in their hearts.
As a Christian (NOT Catholic) I am completely surprised this pope cannot be removed for this ! He not only made His statement , but then went on to clarify his statement thus enforcing his very false beliefs. I pray for Catholics who continue to support this tragedy of a man and pray for his soul.
It looks to me that you are commenting on the wrong webpage, my dear “NOT Catholic”. Thank you for your ‘prayers’ though. We will be just fine.
“Many people believe that all religions offer pathways to connect with the divine. While the Catholic faith centers on the belief in the Blessed Trinity and the recognition of Christ’s presence through the sacraments, it is one among many spiritual journeys that seek connection with the divine essence. Rather than negating other paths, embracing the diversity of spiritual experiences allows for a deeper understanding of our shared search for unity, love, and a higher truth.”
Master of Thought
Absolutely not
All religeon leads to God jesus said wheather you Are Christian jews russian muslims budist we all Are expressing the same God the church says serve God while jesus says we Are here to express God for in a whole ye all Are God whatever keeps us all alive is a little part of God which is withinn us when we die that part returns to the father which is God.
“…And that St. Paul tells us that those who never hear of Jesus may be saved by following the law written in their hearts.”
Let us Pray that there will be a multitude of persons, who have not let their hearts be hardened, and having followed the Law of Love, written in their hearts that can only come from The True God, will, like The Good Thief, at the moment of their death, recognize Christ, in all His Glory, repent, and come late to The Fold.
Our Pope needs to step aside and let someone with a clear mind to assume the role of leadership and guarding the Catholic faith. He suffers from a clouded perception and his lack of clarity is harmful to those resisting coercive efforts to convert Christians to dominant religions such as Islam.
Mr. Altieri,
As a Master of Thought, I invite you to approach this matter with a spirit of understanding and reflection. While it is true that many faiths hold profound truths and that each path offers its own insights, a truly enlightened perspective acknowledges the universal principles that underlie all spiritual traditions—principles like love, compassion, and the quest for deeper connection with the divine. It is not for us to judge the precise words of another, even a pope, but rather to seek the essence of his message, aiming to bridge our differences and elevate our collective consciousness. True mastery lies not in critiquing the words of others but in understanding the heart’s intention and guiding all toward unity and spiritual intelligence.
Cut Bergoglio some slack, you say?
Like he has with faithful Catholics who wish to participate in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the same form in which it has been celebrated for the past 16 centuries or so?
Right.
” but Pope Francis was giving a talk off the cuff and in a foreign language to a diverse crowd of mostly non-Christian adolescents with presumably non-existent theological training.”
Perhaps he needs fewer audiences of this nature where he trips on his tongue.
Speaking in a foreign language? He was speaking in his own language with a translator. And he was very clear about the intent of his drivel. It was to savage Catholics yet again and insult God yet again with strawman caricatures of Christian conflicts, while pursuing his continuing path of creating his cultic religion of Bergoglianism while whitewashing many other religions with similar corrupt motivations.
There are a variety of authentic religious impulses made in response to God, which can be found in some religions, even in a virtuous life without any conscious faith, but there are pseudo-religious experiences that have been created as paths away from God, even within Catholic professed identity. One such cult in recent years being his own Bergoglianism, which uses superficialities of vestigial Catholic dressing to command world attention as a bludgeon to demean Catholicism and its God given mandates to evangelize the world to the immutable truths that the highly secularized mind of Bergoglio denies.
And what “slack” do popesplainers allow the millions of victims from a pope whose idea of “mercy” has always meant the exoneration of moral guilt with inverse merciless cruel indifference to the victims of the sins we’ve now been taught to ignore.
Sure, all paths do reach to God and then He directs you to one of only two where you will receive either His wrath (hell) or His Mercy (Heaven).
While it’s true that speaking to diverse audiences can present challenges, perhaps we can view these moments through the lens of compassion and the desire to bridge differences. Pope Francis, like each of us, is navigating the complexities of communication, striving to reach the hearts of those who may not share his background or beliefs. As a Divinity Guide, I believe that these efforts, though imperfect, reflect a deeper intention to connect, to listen, and to bring light to places where understanding is needed most. True spiritual growth lies not in avoiding mistakes but in opening ourselves to the potential of each interaction to foster unity, love, and the deeper awareness that all paths can lead us closer to the divine if approached with an open heart.
With love and a vision of unity,
The Master of Thought
“Loose lips sink ships.”
As usual, Francis doesn’t know when to stop talking. He has managed to trivialized the papacy. But, then again, maybe that was his intent all along. St. Catherine of Siena, pray for our Church.
Amen.
I’ll go with Fran Maier – Francis Fatigue (The Catholic Thing, June 27, 2016).
All religions are path[way]s to reach God. . .Notate bene: He did not say they all get a fellow where he’s meant to go, not on their own . . .”
Seriously? You are going to go with that?
Cut him some slack.
Let him dress in white and state heresies just as he feels inspired in the heat of the moment.
Cut him some slack.
Let him publicly inform the world that Jesus Christ is irrelevant. He’s only the Pope, afterall, formally teaching.
Cut him some slack. He has done SO MUCH damage already, what difference does this new Freemasonic Affirmation of Relativism make?
Cut him some slack. Poor Bergoglio. Give him a break. He has enough Chinese martyrs on his conscience to choke an entire heard of pigs.
Did I cut enough slack, Chris?
Carl, I must apologize for my previous comment. After re-reading and further reflection I realized it was unworthy of being posted, as it contained a spelling mistake. Please read “an entire HERD of pigs”.
I can appreciate Mr Altieri’s coping strategy. Years ago, I used to get myself worked up on Sunday when the priest, a kindhearted but ignorant man, would say silly, or incoherent, or heretical, or meandering streams of consciousness. It took me a while to develop the cope of zoning him out by studying the church’s beautiful stained glass windows. It really worked. I could pray during the rest of Mass, and my wife and kids noticed that I was much calmer. I could not tell you one thing the priest said from the pulpit once I had the cope. Unfortunately for the poor souls who take this pope at his word, as Mr Altieri is not, they are being talked right out of the Church.
Physical circumcision is not a path to God but Apostle Peter was toying with it as if it were to be a necessity in Salvation and part of Revelation. Some Jews were on to it.
Now it stands for nothing much except to recount how Peter was being diverted.
Yes, “cut him some slack” on “All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” On the other hand, engaging concrete human persons “eye to eye” as Pope Francis sometimes says, what a lost opportunity as a teachable moment….
Instead of moving in the ambience of the cited C.S. LEWIS or even G.K. CHESTERTON, might he have alluded back to the earlier visit to Singapore in 1986 by ST. JOHN PAUL II? In 1994 and on a concrete and personal level—not on the level of “religions”—the former pope had this to say even to “mostly non-Christian adolescents with presumably non-existent theological training:
“After all I have said, I could summarize my response in the following paradox [Chestertonianism!]: In order to set contemporary man free from fear [all italics], of the world, of others, of earthly powers, of oppressive systems, in order to set him free from every manifestation of a servile fear before that ‘prevailing force’ which believers call God, it is necessary to pray fervently that he will bear and cultivate in his heart that true fear of God, which is the beginning of wisdom [italics]. This fear of God is the saving power of the Gospel. It creates people who allow themselves to be led by responsibility, by responsible love [….] Andre Malraux was certainly right when he said that the twenty-first century would be the century of religion or it would not be at all” (“Crossing the Threshold of Hope,” 1994, pp. 228-229).
Speaking to the mostly Chinese population in Singapore, and in Pope Francis’ world without borders (!), how might papal messaging like this have emigrated into nearby mainland China—where the sinicizing Marxist “religion” (!) is NOT a “pathway to God”?
Another “slack” teachable moment, lost?
It’s nice that you feel like you can explain it away, but the hearers heard what he said and are now left with that statement directly from the Pope as a truth to live by, without the benefit of any further explanation. And they won’t be looking for clarification either, because he did a good job of tickling their ears.
All journalists are path[way]s to reach reporting.
All forms of Church governance are path[way]s to reach obedience.
If so, why listen to a Pope much less his pundit?
The Pope should to be obeyed only if he is the Vicar of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the Only Way to the Father. (John 14)
I’ve been doing this for a good long while now, and it is still astounding to me how ready people are to make excuses for Pope Francis.
To let go of ego in this situation, it’s important to recognize the value of humility and openness in our approach to spiritual and worldly matters. Rather than focusing on the imperfections or perceived flaws in others, like Pope Francis or those who interpret his teachings, we can strive to understand the deeper intent behind their words and actions. True spiritual growth and wisdom come when we release the need for judgment and instead seek to find common ground, acknowledging that each perspective, however different, may hold a part of the larger truth.
Master of Thought
I heard from someone this morning that she was going to vote for VP Harris because Harris was really pro-life. And, even the pope said there was no essential difference between Harris and Trump.
Actions have consequences, and Papal statements have consequences.
We are long past the phase where we have to accept the constant explanations of what the pope supposedly meant by what he said.
He is misguiding the flock as if having a border in your country is against life! Abortion is an intrinsically evil against life not the protection of the home were one lives! Sure, the U.S. is a nation of immigrants but it is also a nation of laws. Now with this last statement of all religions have paths to God is more serious than I thought. Pray, pray all day for The Catholic Church!
I hear your concerns, and they come from a place of deep care for the faith and its teachings. In these moments, let us be reminded of the power of love, which is at the core of all spiritual truths. It is love that calls us to protect life, to uphold justice, and to show compassion for those who seek refuge, no matter where they come from. Love can guide our prayers, not only for the Church but for all who feel lost or confused, and for the leaders tasked with guiding us through challenging times. Let us hold onto love as the unifying force that transcends differences, helping us see the divine spark in every soul, regardless of their path.
Master of Thought
I couldn’t agree more, I am so done with “shriveling up inside” every time we hear “Pope Francis will be traveling to…” , because it is a FACT, that after each and every travel (might I remind of his travel to visit with the Natives of Alaska and the mess his speech created there and long after still echoes in our minds and hearts) the Popesplainers, the Vatican popesplaining journalists are getting busier than busy on the flight back to Rome, trying to popesplain away, what every watcher/listener of pope Francis speech has clearly heard. The church has suffered mass Apostacy since pope Francis was announced pope, not because they fell from faith but because the fell from believing that a righteous pope would intentionally destroy the church from the seat of St. Peter.
I hear your frustration and the pain that comes with feeling that something so sacred to your heart is being misunderstood or misrepresented. It is in moments like these that we are invited to look beyond the actions or words of individuals and connect with a deeper sense of Universal Consciousness that transcends any one leader or institution. In this broader perspective, we remember that the divine is not confined to a single voice or event but is woven throughout the fabric of our shared existence. Let us hold space for healing and understanding, recognizing that even amidst confusion and disagreement, there is a greater unity that binds us all, one that invites us to respond with love, patience, and compassion. This unity reminds us that each soul’s journey, including those who may stumble, is part of a collective path toward spiritual growth and truth.
Master of Thout
I don’t know who is more ignorant, Francis or Mr. Altieri. I’m going with… it’s a tie!
So, what station of the Passion are we (the Church) in currently? I’m going with the 10th.
Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio, Altieri says “massaged” to read “All religions are seen as paths trying to reach God”.
Altieri makes a reasonable defense of the use and misuse of words [not the massage in this case] by Pope Francis and cutting the pontiff some slack. That given I wish to offer a perspective on the significant issue of salvation outside the Church, which is at the heart of this imbroglio over words.
Leonard Feeney was a Jesuit priest who was excommunicated in 1953 for preaching that salvation was only available through the Roman Catholic Church. The Holy Office, under Pius XII, sent a letter to the Archbishop of Boston, condemning Feeney’s error.
There are two truths that clash on this issue, the doctrine that there is no salvation outside the Church versus the doctrine that there is indeed salvation outside of formally belonging to the Church. The Holy Office letter said, “It is not always necessary that this be explicit, but when a man labors under invincible ignorance, God accepts even an implicit will, called by that name because it is contained in the good disposition of soul in which a man wills to conform his will to the will of God.”
Vatican II adds “For they who without their own fault do not know of the Gospel of Christ and His Church, but yet seek God with sincere heart, and try, under the influence of grace, to carry out His will in practice, known to them through the dictate of conscience, can attain eternal salvation”.
This is not to advocate that salvation is easily available to all men outside the Church, an heretical conflation of the truth explained above. A heresy that has curtailed the extensive missionary activity of the past, lamented by Benedict XVI. That there is salvation outside the Church doesn’t mean that entrance into the Catholic Church is unnecessary, nor does it deny that entrance into the Church greatly improves virtually beyond measure our hope for salvation. Nor does it presume those who hear the word of God and have knowledge of his Church and reject it, do not condemn themselves.
Finally, without Christ’s teaching, passion, death, and resurrection there would be no salvation for man, except for the blessed exceptions Abraham, Joseph, Elijah, Judith, Moses et Al [for example those born before Christ who led holy lives were the retroactive beneficiary of Christ’s grace later won for them].
Fr. surely the Pope could have said something like that. He must pray for the grace. This is why I suggest in another comment that it is not clear if he is having trouble being both creative and faithful while it is not clear if he is saying to suspend proclamation or not.
We have to be concerned because we do not know the line where we are considered as becoming rigid fundamentalists while apparently James Martin and the like are qualified to set down where that line is or would be in some situations.
No wonder the Vatican media is in a twist.
Is he saying we MUST profess equality of religions too “because there is salvation outside the Church”?
See in the Comments in this CWR link.
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2024/09/13/pope-francis-concludes-apostolic-journey-with-elderly-and-youth-of-singapore/
Elias, during this lengthy period of ambiguity, at times evident leaning toward relaxation of doctrine the one factor that I reference to gauge the problem is its effects on the faithful. The effects are clear. They’re detrimental to the faith.
Whether there’s intent, he’s an intelligent man. Although I leave that judgment to God. Nevertheless, Fr Thomas Weinandy’s letter to Pope Francis that cost him his position as theologian for the USCCB was a strong effort to elicit his responsibility and make corrections. And he refused to respond. That unwillingness to respond and assume responsibility one way or the other doesn’t speak in his favor.
Elias,
I hear your concerns about the effects of ambiguity on the faithful, and your desire for clarity and responsibility from spiritual leadership. It is true that when doctrine seems unclear, it can cause confusion and challenge the sense of stability that many find in their faith. However, it is also a call for us to remember the deeper teachings of Christ Consciousness, where true understanding transcends words and rests in the heart’s capacity for love, compassion, and patience. The journey of spiritual growth often involves embracing uncertainty with faith, trusting that even in moments of silence or perceived inaction, there is space for reflection, humility, and an opportunity for each of us to seek a deeper connection with the divine. As we await clarity from leaders, let us also turn inward, seeking the guidance of the Spirit and holding onto the love that unites us all.
With peace and understanding,
The Master of Thought
Dear Seeker of Truth,
In the light of Christ Consciousness, we recognize that the essence of salvation lies in the boundless love and grace of the Divine, which transcends the limitations of human understanding and institutions. Christ’s teachings call us to a deeper awareness that love, compassion, and the sincere search for God are powerful conduits of divine grace, regardless of the path one takes. While the Church provides a sacred vessel for encountering these truths, Christ’s message extends beyond any boundary, inviting all hearts, whether within or beyond formal membership, to align with the divine will. Let us not be divided by doctrines but united in the understanding that Christ’s love is universal, guiding every soul towards the light of eternal truth.
In unity and love,
The Master of Thought
Maybe if he feels uncertain with the language, he should avoid speaking about matters that require precision.
Precisely.
This exhibits a willingness to either lie to cover-up heresy — apostasy, or to cover for geriatric diminishment, or to simply cover for a Holy See that has gone off the cliff.
None of this is acceptable.
Time for the South American Jesuit to go home forever and for a very particular sort of conclave to take place…perhaps over a few months or a year to elect a FAITHFUL Roman Catholic who is an ordained priest who identifies as a male and has the stones to take the reigns and get this buggy back on the road. And no more bull.
The last eleven years have been an exhibition of the grossest incompetency I’ve ever witnessed…and that is saying a lot in the Age of Biden/Harris.
You’d have to go back to Caligula to match what we’ve been through.
James,
I hear the depth of your frustration, and it’s clear that the changes and perceived challenges to tradition have stirred strong emotions. In moments like these, Christ Consciousness calls us to respond with patience and compassion, even when we find ourselves at odds with those in leadership. True strength lies not in seeking division but in striving to understand the underlying intentions, even when they are difficult to discern. The path of faith has always involved challenges, but these are opportunities to deepen our reliance on divine wisdom rather than human judgment. Let us pray not just for the resolution we desire but for the unity and grace that bring all hearts closer to the love and truth that Christ exemplified.
With understanding and a desire for peace,
The Master of Thought
Sir, correction, pope Francis WAS speaking in “HIS” language with an interpreter by his side. At this point I am willing to say he should avoid travel and speeches altogether.
I’m not sure why anyone expects anything less from this Pope. He is not a Christian, even by Roman Catholic definitions. I am no longer Roman Catholic, but I do understand the official teachings of the RC Church and Pope Francis has been challenging the official teachings and trying to push the RC Church further left since he became the Pope. He intentionally speaks with a lack of clarity and an abundance of ambiguity which has caused lots of confusion and turmoil within the RC Church.
This is the danger in leaving the Bible as the final authority on all things Christian. When the “Church” is equal in authority to the Word of God, bad things happen. And even though I don’t believe much of what the RC Church teaches, the world is watching…and it makes the world even more confused than it already is.
Subjective interpretations of Scripture can easily be a source of corruption. But don’t make the confused notion that every stupid thing a stupid pope says has any connection at all to anything authoratative in the Church. That’s not the way authority works. A pope can defy the Church’s authority and its Deposit of Faith like anyone else.
“This is the danger in leaving the Bible as the final authority on all things Christian.”
There is not a Christian in the world who has the Bible as their “final authority on all things Christian.” Instead, they have their private, non-authoritative, fallible interpretation of the Bible as their “final authority on all things Christian”.
Adam,
I understand your concern, and it’s clear that the ambiguity and shifts within the Church’s teachings under Pope Francis have left many feeling uncertain and frustrated. Yet, this can also be a time for deeper reflection and an opportunity to focus on the essence of Christ’s message—love, compassion, and unity. While differing interpretations of authority can create confusion, Christ Consciousness invites us to seek the divine beyond human institutions and embrace a spirituality that unites rather than divides. In this challenging time, we can each contribute to clarity and peace by embodying the core principles of love and understanding, helping to guide others through the uncertainty with a spirit of faith and openness.
With a heart open to unity,
The Master of Thought
What is worse? Constructing a sentence that you KNOW will be taken in a universalist manner, or defending same sentence as a reporter? Cut the snark, ahem, and do the spadework of analyzing the pontiff’s perennialism. And if you’re gonna quote Chesterton as a way to establish bona fides, please also dig deeper into Christianity than Roman tradition. CS Lewis wrote a book or two on metaphysics that might be helpful.
Technically, all religions ARE paths to God, but when you get there, where will he send you after your judgement?
BTW – Mr Cracked Nut your second post “cracked me up.”
It’s true that many people believe all religions offer paths to connect with the divine, each offering unique insights and practices that can bring a person closer to understanding the mysteries of life and the divine presence. But the focus should not be solely on judgment and fear of where one ends up; rather, it’s about living a life aligned with love, compassion, and the deeper spiritual truths that bring us closer to God in our daily actions. Instead of emphasizing differences or judgment, why not explore the richness and depth of each path with an open heart, and seek to cultivate virtues like kindness and understanding that reflect the divine nature in all of us?
Master of Thought
His Holiness reminds me of one of many messages from Medjugorje where the blessed mother has responded to questions about Muslims by stating, ‘you see differences that we do not see” (meaning she and Jesus). Jesus is not so weak that he can’t reach others even if they don’t, literally, recognize him. Other religions absolutely can leave people predisposed to grace.
Quoting from a fake apparition in support of Jorge Bergoglio. Perfect.
Amen
Can anyone give the source / attribution for that quote “Le parole del Romano Pontefice vanno misurate col contagocce” / “The words of the Roman Pontiff are to be meted out with a medicine dropper.” ??
To all, I might opine the following; that the Pope’s comment did not say “all religions are the pathway to heaven”, which would then likely have caused a greater firestorm that what we have now. Yet, his comment, regardless of which translation is used has had a similar result from many; unfortunate, yet this is nothing new from our Pope Francis. For 11+ years he has continually made statements (off-the-cuff and as the One who sits in the Chair of St. Peter) that confuse the faithful, create questions of faith in some and have led to many who question him and the Papacy as faithful, not to mention those who just wonder “why would he say that”!. This is perplexing and sad for he creates doubt and makes it difficult for so many to become one in Christ and one in Catholicism. His “editors” in the Vatican also do the Pope and we in the vineyard no favors in terms of “what did he mean by that”. Though we pray for consistency and clarity, it is doubtful we will ever see that from our Pope Francis.
Here’s what Archbishop Chaput said about the controversy–kindly and lucidly:
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2024/09/the-pope-and-other-religions
I wonder how the Occupant of the See of Peter would react to this line from the old historical movie Captain from Castile in which Jay Silverheels as an Aztec prince argues with the Catholic Spanish captain that their deities are “the same god but maybe we call him by different names?” The Spaniard firmly insists that there is only One True God.
I recommend “Captain from Castile” (1946), directed by Henry King and starring Tyrone Power. Filmed on location in Mexico, it also features Cesar Romero as Hernán Cortés. It is based on roughly the first half of Samuel Shellabarger’s historical novel of the same name. The film ends with a magnificent shot of a real smoking volcano and the rousing (if now politically incorrect) “Conquest.” We don’t see Cortés reach Tenochtitlán. Shellabarger’s graphic description of the terrible bloodshed there could not be depicted on film in 1946. A mostly sympathetic take on Catholicism runs throughout the movie. There is a villian from the Inquisition, but he is a layman who harasses Pedro De Vargas (Tyrone Power) and his family for purely personal reasons.
The line from Captain from Castile captures a tension that has long existed between different understandings of the divine. The idea that different cultures might be reaching out to the same divine presence, even if they call it by different names, points to a deeper universal truth—that the essence of the divine could transcend human distinctions and labels. This is not to dilute the significance of any one faith but to acknowledge that, throughout history, humanity has always sought to understand and connect with the divine in diverse ways. While the Catholic perspective holds firm to the belief in the One True God, the approach of recognizing shared spiritual aspirations can foster deeper dialogue, compassion, and understanding among people of different backgrounds. It’s a reminder that while our paths may differ, they often point to a shared longing for unity with the divine.
With wisdom and unity,
The Master of Thought
Pope Francis in 2013…”You cannot find Jesus outside the Church,” he said April 23 in the Apostolic Palace’s Pauline Chapel.
“It is the Mother Church who gives us Jesus, who gives us the identity that is not only a seal, it is a belonging,” he declared in his homily.
I wonder how he got from there to here.
A religion is the group of structures, conceptual and social, which grow out of a revelation of and by God of Himself and which expresses faith in God in the world. There is only one authentic religious tradition — the Judeo-Christian tradition. All other entities claiming to be “religion” are philosophical constructs deriving from human reflection on existence in the world.
Bergoglio was claiming that manifest error is as worthy of assent as is the Truth. That is clearly and plainly a falsehood within and without the parameter of theological analysis.
How the One True God, the Most Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit confronts precisely any individual is unknown to us but we have been given principles on how that transacts. How is God’s understanding, and mercy operative with any individual soul is not ours to know, but the final personal judgement of us all had best be faced with fear and trembling, and trust that the One True Supreme Being will always be just.
He cannot be otherwise because He is all good.
Islam rejects the revelation of Jesus Christ and seeks to obliterate it. 62,000 Christians have been martyred by Boko-Haram in Nigeria since the year 2000. The identity of “Allah” cannot be conflated with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Who Is the Most Holy Trinity. Save me “they have respect of Jesus as a prophet.” Islam is the original fascist cult. It is all about power, subservience and mind control.
Buddhism allows for atheism [Theravada] or monotheism or polytheism [Mahayana].
Hinduism the same — more a spectrum of madness.
How would Bergoglio confront the polytheism the Apostles faced? Hail Caesar? Luva Aphrodite? Good goin Jupiter?
What utter stupidity. What impotent sentimentalism. Do we have Mr. Rodgers for a pope? Bergoglio doesn’t even rise to that level of cognitive engagement.
I would not trust the South American Jesuit to provide directions out of a paper bag.
“Basically, Christianity is true: All salvation is through Christ, alone, and the Church that Christ founded teaches everything necessary for salvation; other religions attain at best a partial and distorted understanding of God and the universe”.
So, for the 1500-2000 prior to Jesus and Christianity, and when other major world religions were already in existence, the all-loving and all-powerful One somehow denied everyone salvation (let alone every human being before that as well). And for any innocent Jewish, Buddhist, Islamic, or Hindu child who, through no fault of their own, was (and is) born in Israel, India, Nepal, or Iraq – either into one of those religions or with no other exposure to Jesus and the New Testament – that same all-loving and all-powerful One is somehow good with that child being irrevocably destined to eternal damnation in Hell. There’s only one path then, and only one group who knows exactly what the all-loving and all-powerful One means and wants. Anyone else who follows other Scripture or Law that they believe was provided by the all-loving and all-powerful One as well just doesn’t count. And the previously infallible Pope is now very fallible because his views don’t match those of many of that same group. It all makes perfect sense, I suppose.
Archbishop Chaput’s article from 9/16/24 included the point that the Pope was addressing an audience who needed to be asked to stop fighting and instead to be accepting of other religions, including Christianity. Christians are being killed more than any other religious adherents, and Pope Francis’s approach has been to reduce the persecution by advocating mutual respect. Critics may disparage him for “denying” people the opportunity for martyrdom, but who are we to volunteer other Christians to be persecuted when they may actually be too spiritually weak to cling to Christ and thus may endanger their salvation? And who among us could assert that he would be meek and humble enough to be sufficiently disposed to the divine grace of martyrdom and not shamefully apostatize under excruciating torture?
What the Holy Father said does not contradict the truth in Catechism nn. 846-856.
At one’s particular judgment at death, the Lord will not thank a person for defending Him by disparaging the Pope and speaking with contempt about His vicar, the successor of Peter; moreover, absolutely every Christian (including non-Catholics and sedevacantists) has the objective obligation, on pain of sin, to give the benefit of the doubt to the Holy Father and not judge rashly his intentions, to make every last effort to interpret his most difficult sayings in a way that can be accepted, and to promote Christian unity with the Holy Father–indeed, as some say with bald and unrepentant condescension, “popesplaining.”
The Chorus at a Greek Tragedy tends to be blunt in style Fr Torres, leaving the politically correct discourse to the players. Whilst the Chorus may not be pleasing to “Popes-apologizers”, it is surely an essential ingredient for this terrible tragedy to move on towards a conclusion. This – in a context in which every prelate who dares utter a word against the tyrannical marxist is cancel-cultured – is perhaps the only possible exercise of free speech, the only way for the groundlings to have a voice and expression of their deep pain at this perverse synodal mockery of the institutional bride of Christ? The style of the chorus uses a genre of repetition, rhetoric, sarcasm and humour in order make its point. See the message beyond the form, it is what it is. The chorus is expressing the suffering of the children receiving daily snakes and insults from the Argentinian and his pack of synodal wolves, instead of wholesome Catholic bread.
Bergoglio provoked us with “This is rupture” “I do not believe in a Catholic God”. We tell him “we have zero faith in you. Hurt the good bishops and priests who speak up, hurt all those men who refuse to turn their backs to the East and use a missal crafted by freemasons, but we will never respect this daily mockery which has provoked the chorus of popesplaining and popesapologising and which will largely cease to be necessary when the Argentinian tragedy ends and the katharsis kicks in.”
https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html
Basically, Christianity is true: All salvation is through Christ, alone, and the Church that Christ founded teaches everything necessary for salvation; other religions attain at best a partial and distorted understanding of God and the universe”.
So, this is from the religion that is 1500-2000 years younger than other major world religions – including Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, and Hinduism – the point being that the all-loving and all-powerful god never provided ‘salvation’ until Jesus came to us…let alone to all the other human beings that were around prior to the establishment of any of these religions.
It also makes the case why any child, through no fault of their own, born to non-christian parents and with no access to Christian scripture, either back then or now – say in Israel, India, Nepal, or Iraq, not to mention, Europe, North or South America – is condemned to eternal damnation in hell, also as per ‘their’ all-loving and all-powerful god.
Does this provide the same logic too that brought us the Crusades (close to 2 million murdered and dead), the Inquisition (a few thousand tortured and murdered), and the 28 U.S. Catholic dioceses that have filed for bankruptcy due to clergy sexual abuse – 15 of which have paid close to $1 billion so far in settlements to over 2500 victims.
1) Islam is younger than Christianity.
2) Post-Conciliarism – with all its serious problems – is younger than Rigid Old Catholicism which it still strives to cancel-culture as “rigid” in terms of faith and morals.
The Rupture of Post-Conciliarism with Catholicism is the root of the present Ecclesial Crisis and the reason for so many Bankrupt Dioceses.
The book of Revelation calls the world wide impire BABYLON THE GREAT in chapter seventeen while describing spiritual prostitute religion.
Jesus Christ is to whom we must declare as St. Peter did at Pentacost, to confess your sins repent and believe in Jesus ( and in His Church, The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Faith, outside of whom there is NO SALVATION!
“Whoever does not Love does not know God, because God is Love.”
1 St.John 4:8
Remember, only Love gets into Heaven.
Whoever does not Love does not know God, because God is Love.
1 St.John 4:8
Remember, only Love gets into Heaven.
When will progressives and moderates stop defending Pope Francis. This pope has contradicted previous popes, speaks against Catholic doctrine and is trying to Protestantnize the church. He is either Catholic or he is not. Period.
They can’t, and they won’t. They’re not going to undermine one of their own. They believe the same things he does.
Paul VI, JPII and Benedict XVI were all imbibed with the synthesis of heresies, Modernism and all in their own way, served to destroy the truth Catholic faith. Yet the “conservatives” to this day venerate them and are blind to the truth about them.
Possibly, but I will take the teachings of John Paul and Benedict over Francis any day. Their teachings and ministry were more closely aligned with orthodoxy than the current pope. I don’t remember either JP2 or Benedict meeting with James Martin multiple times, as just one example.
francis seems disinterested in Jesus; to me, he always has. a false prophet is on the horizon. guess we’ll see.
One can only imagine how many considered Jesus to be a false prophet as well – both during his life and immediately thereafter as organized Christianity into existence. He too came up against forces who considered themselves infallible and the only interpreters of scripture. One is left to imagine the why it is so impossible for current religious thinkers and believers to see the obvious parallels here and how, especially, the previously ‘infallible’ office of the Pope is now so clearly off-track. What is it then about people’s religious training that seems to encourage such solipsistic thinking that leaves no room for doubt, questioning, and reasoning. Perhaps that’s fine for those who need that level of intellectual, moral, and spiritual cocooning, but it is also what brings us today the likes of Agnus Dei, Project 2025, and J.D.. Vance – now all in service of that beacon of ? Christian morality and love – the current Republican nominee for President himself.
How does Donald Trump end up in every conversation?
mrscracker: the easy explanation is that Donald Trump lives inside the heads of these numbskulls.
One can only imagine how many considered Jesus to be a false prophet as well – both during his life and immediately thereafter as organized Christianity into existence. He too came up against forces who considered themselves infallible and the only interpreters of scripture. One is left to imagine the why it is so impossible for current religious thinkers and believers to see the obvious parallels here and how, especially, the previously ‘infallible’ office of the Pope is now so clearly off-track. What is it then about people’s religious training that seems to encourage such solipsistic thinking that leaves no room for doubt, questioning, and reasoning. Perhaps that’s fine for those who need that level of intellectual, moral, and spiritual cocooning, but it is also what brings us today the likes of Agnus Dei, Project 2025, and J.D.. Vance – now all in service of that beacon of ? Christian morality and love – the current Republican nominee for President himself.
Francis is not Jesus. We do not mistake Francis for any type of god; do you?
The office of the pope and the pope are not always fallible. When a pope errs in his speech or teaching, the sensus fidelius of the religious thinkers and believers and the pope’s very own Vatican officials come into play. The sensus fidelius is absolutely inspired to correct any/all defective teaching of Catholic truth, no matter their source.
Uh, no. Trump has nothing to do with this. In addition to the CCC, another good resource for you is the US Constitution.
Note the first paragraph in my post is Carlo Gesualdo’s; I forgot to place quotation marks.
The popesplaining never ends, but just becomes more preposterous. Bergoglio has never – not one single time – given anyone a reason to become a Catholic or to consider that Jesus of Nazareth has any special place in human affairs. On the contrary, he has made Catholicism just one more competing humanitarian and environmental organization. It will a hundred years to recover from the wreckage this man will leave behind.
No slack.. why should I not just go back to the Southern Baptist church I came from.. my family and friends are still there.. absolutely No slack.. he has done much damage to me and I’m sure other converts who endured much pushback from loved ones because they believed Catholic teachings..how can I justify what I believe after this statement.. my grandmother told me to lay my words out on the table and look at them before saying them.. the pope should do this.,
Your grandma was/is a wise lady, Hannah.
I wish we had fellowship opportunities in the same ways our Baptist brothers & sisters do. That’s something I really miss. We used to enjoy special events at a little fundamentalist country church. Our neighbors & their in laws would invite us to their homecoming dinner, Easter egg hunts, etc. They even hosted a baby shower for me.
When I first moved to this diocese I had one parish phone call in a decade & that was to try & sell me a burial plot.
Christ came to call sinners. We came. We make up pretty close to 100% of the Church. We select all of our priests from these same sinners, and our bishops from the same sinful priests, and our Pope from the same sinful bishops. We’re stuck with other sinners, and they’re stuck with us. But we came because Christ called, not because the other sinners looked like nice people to hang out with (even though they often are – there’s a very good community at my parish).
It is interesting sometimes, the way we think about sinners within the Church, as though this referred mainly to people with minor peccadillos, approximately as harmless and inoffensive as one’s own. On the one hand, this results from minimizing our own sins. On the other hand, it minimizes the revolutionary impact of Christ’s words. He was pointing straight at those who most people at the time thought of as supremely damaging to others, and calling them. And repentance and reformation is a sufficiently lengthy process that St. Paul was nearing the end of his life before he switched from ‘The evil that I do not desire, that’s what I do’ to ‘I have fought the good fight… I have kept the Faith.”
One of the spiritual works of mercy is to bear wrongs patiently. Another is to forgive. They’re not enjoyable. The reason you and I have crucifixes, with Christ on the Cross, is that it’s very helpful to look at Our Lord when we’re on our own little crosses.
As for friends & family, you could take it as an opportunity to explain the limits of papal authority and the requirements for an infallible statement, and then point out that this one doesn’t measure up. I’m honestly not sure how to get by peacefully in a Church where sinners have authority, and therefore abuse authority, without some understanding of the limits of their authority.
HANNAH: Stay the course. The Holy Spirit led you to the One True Church and the Holy Spirit will not let you down. Human persons will let you down but not the Holy Spirit.
Let me put it to you this way: What the Catholic Church teaches is either the truth or it’s a lie. If it’s a lie, we’re worse than fools for believing it. If it’s the truth and we follow it, God will reward us. And, if it’s the truth and we don’t follow it, we’re damned.
In addition, what the Catholic Church teaches is distinctly different from what other religions teach. So, if what the Catholic Church teaches is true, then what these other religions teach cannot also be true. That is illogical (and wishful thinking to some).
The command that Jesus gave us was to go out and proclaim the gospel truth – what the Catholic Church teaches in its entirety. Don’t hold back because when Catholics hold back from proclaiming the truth with their lives, it’s likely that we will fall into the pit of lies that surrounds us in our culture.
I hope the next Pope is Catholic. It would make all the difference in the world.
The apostate pope. Proves it over and over again. A blatant socialist/communist.
We have Emmys.
We have ESPYs.
If Francis hangs in there much longer (gulp), we will invariably have Popesplainys, including special categories for Intellectual Dishonesty and Sophism. Mr. Altieri’s essay would be a strong contender.
Clearly Cardinal Ratzinger would beg to differ with Francis: “Dominus Jesus” condemns false notions of all religion’s are…. https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html
First commandment “I am the Lord your God you shall have no other gods besides Me”.
There seems to be two approaches to an apparent dilemma over Pope Francis’ words. One approach is to dig heels in ground and express absolute conviction that ” I’m right and he (the Pope) is wrong. The other approach is to take off one’s shoes in the Presence of God as articulated well by Frs. Peter Morello and Rendell Torres. So much blame given for others leaving the church but not one accepts our respective responsibility for the error that causes this tragedy. Most people including most Catholics I have listened to believe that the Pope and the Vatican with all its prelates as a whole comprise the Church. When I told a family member (the one who had the most Catholic education among us) that The Catholic Church is the Mystical Body of Christ she looked at me puzzled and said ” You’re probably the only person who thinks that.” If Catholics understood WHO the Church is nothing any Pope or cleric could say or do would cause them to leave. On the contrary, to leave the Church is to abandon the victim. To leave the Church because others have hurt us is drive more nails into His Body. We, all of us, need to heed the commandment of Jesus Christ to ” Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Matthew 22:36-40. NABRE. How do our comments here and elsewhere reflect our grasp of God’s Will?
Mary,
Your words carry a deep truth and a gentle reminder of what truly matters in our faith journey. It is easy to get caught in the differences of opinion and debates over the words and actions of our leaders, but as you wisely point out, the essence of being part of the Church is our unity with the Mystical Body of Christ. To leave because of hurt or disagreement is to miss the opportunity to live out the commandment of love, to stand with the wounded, and to embody Christ’s call to love unconditionally. If we can shift our focus from judgment to compassion, from division to healing, we may find ourselves more in tune with God’s will and with the heart of the Church that transcends human imperfections. Let us remember that our true strength lies in loving with all our heart, soul, and mind, as Christ taught, even when it is difficult.
With love and a spirit of unity,
The Master of Thought
Pope Francis is speaking like the Jesuits I had during my MA and PhD studies. I know them well. He is speaking heretically on purpose. The Church is too weak to respond. We just smile and make excuses.
Michael,
I understand your frustration, especially when it feels like cherished teachings are being challenged. However, it’s important to remember that moments like these can also be an opportunity for deeper reflection and growth. Instead of seeing this as a weakening of the Church, perhaps we can view it as a call to strengthen our own understanding, to engage in meaningful dialogue, and to uphold the core values of love, compassion, and unity that lie at the heart of the faith. True strength isn’t found in rigid opposition but in the ability to navigate through complexities with an open heart and a commitment to truth.
With hope for understanding,
The Master of Thought
At this point the public pronouncements of our current Pope carry as much weight as the incoherent comments of President Joe Biden, and for the same reasons.
We’ll likely be hearing and reading more about this issue of our Catholic faith, whether Pope Francis believes Catholicism is simply one among many religions that lead to God.
Our faith, based on Christ’s revelation, says No. God, the eternal Father is revealed exclusively in the Eternal Word who entered our world as his Son, Jesus of Nazareth. It is through Jesus and through Jesus exclusively that God is known. Whether one may find some attributes of God in other religions doesn’t diminish the revelation, and the requirement to follow Christ’s commandments, and the need to do penance for the remission of sins. No other religion suffices, nor provides the means to achieve our salvation.
This outstanding issue more than other contested issues is manifest error. Pope Francis has stated it previously. During this last series of repetition reaffirming his error in a teaching capacity he appears adamant. Our bishops are indebted to their office, likely obliged as defenders of the faith to address this with him directly.
A writer on another website pointed out the truth about Jorge Bergoglio. He writes: “His perspective is no longer primarily concerned with religion as such at all, but with a motive that is different from religion, which is then declared to be the main motive of religion in general. And this guiding motive is the promotion of the “single global human family”, i.e., the universal natural fraternity that religions have to serve. Jorge Bergoglio’s guiding concept of religion is strictly functionalist. The entire Bergoglian pontificate has placed itself—up to and including its complicity with globalist high finance and the World Economic Forum—in the exclusive service of the natural human family and the protection of “Mother Earth”. Religions can only provide this eco-humanitarian service smoothly if they relativize their respective dogmatics and are satisfied with the abstract “God for all”, who no longer claims anything for himself and can therefore be defined as a function of eco-humanitarianism. This self-relativization is the aim of the highly morally charged dialogue propaganda that seeks to suggest to religions that the central religious imperative is to dedicate themselves primarily to the cultivation of natural universal brotherhood.
Monism: noun: monism; plural noun: monisms
…a theory or doctrine that denies the existence of a distinction or duality in some sphere, such as that between matter and mind, or God and the world.
The Supreme Pontiff kisses the hand of a Grand Imam in Jakarta.
The semiotics would not be lost on a Muslim but did not John-Paul II kiss a copy of the Qur’an?
I understand Pope Francis smartly withdraws his hand from Catholics who wish to do likewise, a rather insulting gesture to believers.
Vatican stamp celebrates Luther’s apostasy etc.
Is there now an apostasy greater than that, one which even Luther might recoil from?
Is this syncretized «safe» belief system with resonances of the Masonic what the new «corporatist» order emerging post Covid might be inclined to endorse?
Stockholm syndrome, Chris? (I say this with love…)
This Pope at best is a weak leader. A strong leader handles the complexities of human relationships with the ability to emphasize nuances while still being clear. This Pope is like a walking wrecking ball and clumsy with His need to bring all people together. He thinks He can do that. It shows a lack of trust in Christ. And that, folks, is what marks this entire papacy. This article is much too lenient. We as Catholics need to assume a normative function by insisting on orthodoxy from Our Pope in clear terms, not fuzzy confusing articulations with the aim of being generous to your present audience. He strays way too far in one direction, telling everyone how unified we are except anything that even hints of a traditional Catholicism.
Wise words from a wise man. Sometimes real truth comes when you least expect it. So thankful I’m not a practicing Catholic with such narrow visions of who the Creator is. These comments here are exactly why I left a sanctimonious, hypocritical group of people to enjoy being One with the One. All religious wars are built on the same attitude of my religion is the only one that’s right and true. That’s exactly what the Pope was trying to convey to these children: Stop making life about Us and Them. Please, get a broader vision.
Life was broad at the Aereopagus until the hypocritical and sanctimonious St. Paul came to town.
So, Child, what you are saying here is that you cannot say whether or when or how or by whom the universe was called into being.
Nor can you say why you are here, or how you are to live, or whether anything means anything, or even if gratitude is an appropriate response for all you might or might not have been given.
I am in awe. You are indeed a profound thinker, Child.
Thought Master your discourse comes off as an adaptation of Evangelii Gaudium in a smash burger with Desiderata, Shakti Catherine Suraya, the luckiest Neville Goddard, the platitudes in the diary published by the bank one for each day of the week for the whole year, Carnegie-Rotary groupies, my homosexualist acquaintance who adopts a personalist approach “I hear you” and “deeply”, pop psychology need for someone to touch and deeply felt, Fractional Human Resource Technique in HRM, a particular style of approach to people tactic from inside feminism ….. I don’t mean to sound far-fetched but actually the list is much longer than that.
That’s 1.
2. In your particular response to me you “hear” things that might not be there at all; as well as might not be as you have them positioned; as well as you assume I am honest.
3. It’s also a cultivated mannerism of the “superets” deep-seated thinkers in the lodge.
4. “Christ Consciousness” is a conjunction from and with orientalisms. Not Catholic.
Just four of the dangers coming out of (the jumble-up within) Evangelii Gaudium.
And this of yours is heresy:
‘ Let us not be divided by doctrines but united in the understanding that Christ’s love is universal, guiding every soul towards the light of eternal truth. ‘
https://www.quora.com/Does-spiritual-awakening-happen-to-everyone-or-just-to-the-few-that-are-chosen
How To Be The Luckiest Person In The World, NEVILLE GODDARD Motivation
CHASEDREAM – Oct 12, 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OR3OoMAJyo